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BP511 Noisy Bongard Problems vs. minimalist Bongard Problems.
BP10
BP25
BP37
BP40
BP42
BP48
BP58
BP60
BP64
BP65
BP66
BP73
BP82
BP98
BP105
BP106
BP109
BP116
BP123
BP127
BP128
BP130
BP131
BP132
BP135
BP136
BP162
BP165
BP174
BP181
BP183
BP192
BP194
BP201
BP202

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BP859
BP962
BP1104
BP1122
BP1156
BP1219
BP1255
BP1271
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted BPs have the keyword "noisy" on the OEBP. Right-sorted examples have the keyword "minimal."


Noisy Bongard Problems include extra details varying between examples that distract from the solution property; more specifically noise is properties independent of the solution property that vary between examples. Minimalist Bongard Problems only vary details absolutely necessary to communicate the solution.


"Noisy" is different than the kind of distraction mentioned at distractingworld, which means the class of examples is distractingly specific, irrelevant to the solution, rather than that there are extra distracting properties changing between examples.


Bongard Problems have varying degrees of noisiness. Only include here BPs that are very noisy or very minimal.

CROSSREFS

See BP827 for the version with pictures of Bongard Problems (miniproblems) instead of links to pages on the OEBP.

See BP845 for noise in sequences of quantity increase.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP506 BP507 BP508 BP509 BP510  *  BP512 BP513 BP514 BP515 BP516

KEYWORD

fuzzy, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, sideless

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Harry E. Foundalis, Aaron David Fairbanks

BP550 Experimental Bongard Problems vs. traditional-style Bongard Problems.
BP195
BP200
BP300
BP359
BP538
BP544
BP545
BP548
BP555
BP570
BP793
BP795
BP797
BP801
BP812
BP813
BP844
BP854
BP859
BP862
BP868
BP902
BP911
BP915
BP920
BP939
BP941
BP942
BP953
BP955
BP957
BP959
BP1008
BP1056
BP1073

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BP1
BP2
BP3
BP4
BP5
BP6
BP7
BP8
BP9
BP10
BP11
BP12
BP13
BP14
BP15
BP16
BP17
BP18
BP19
BP20
BP21
BP22
BP23
BP24
BP25
BP26
BP27
BP28
BP29
BP30
BP31
BP32
BP33
BP34
BP35

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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "experimental" on the OEBP.

Right examples have the keyword "traditional" on the OEBP.


Experimental BPs push the boundaries of what makes Bongard Problems Bongard Problems.


Traditional BPs show some simple property of black and white pictures. The OEBP is a place with many wild and absurd Bongard Problems, so it is useful to have an easy way to just find the regular old Bongard Problems.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP545 BP546 BP547 BP548 BP549  *  BP551 BP552 BP553 BP554 BP555

KEYWORD

subjective, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-it

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP556 Visual Bongard Problems such that if black and white are switched some examples switch sides vs. visual Bongard Problems that would always sort two switched versions the same way.
BP157
BP196
BP211
BP337
BP859
BP962
BP971
BP972
BP1008
BP1161
BP1249
BP1252
BP170
BP359
BP524
BP1089
BP1093
BP1210
BP1230
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted examples have the keyword "blackwhite" on the OEBP.

Right-sorted examples have the keyword "blackwhiteinvariant" on the OEBP.


All examples are visual Bongard Problems that allow black to touch the bounding box (keyword bordercontent).

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP551 BP552 BP553 BP554 BP555  *  BP557 BP558 BP559 BP560 BP561

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, invariance, wellfounded

CONCEPT black_white_inversion (info | search)

WORLD

visualbp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP913 Bongard Problems in which fine subtleties of images may be considered with respect to the solution (no slightly wrong hand-drawings) vs. other visual Bongard Problems.
BP1
BP160
BP199
BP210
BP211
BP213
BP216
BP217
BP223
BP312
BP321
BP324
BP325
BP335
BP341
BP344
BP348
BP367
BP368
BP386
BP523
BP529
BP530
BP531
BP532
BP533
BP551
BP557
BP559
BP564
BP816
BP852
BP859
BP860
BP861

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BP5
BP6
BP72
BP91
BP136
BP148
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BP119
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "perfect" on the OEBP.

Right examples have the keyword "ignoreimperfections".


Consider the difference in style between BP344 and BP24.


Hand-drawn figures in BPs are typically imperfect. A "circles vs. squares" BP may only show what are approximately circles and approximately squares. A pedant might append to the solutions of all Bongard Problems the caveat "...when figures are interpreted as the most obvious shapes they approximate."

This is the meaning of the label "ignoreimperfections". On the other hand, the label "perfect" means even the pedant would drop this caveat; either all the images are precise, or precision doesn't matter (see also keyword stable).


Even in BPs tagged "perfect", the tiny rough edges caused by image pixelation are not expected to matter. If the OEBP would indeed prefer users only upload pixel-perfect examples, a BP can be tagged with the stricter keyword pixelperfect.

E.g., for BPs having to do with smooth curves and lines, "perfect" only requires images offer the best possible approximation of those intended shapes given the resolution.


Most Bongard Problems involving small details at all would be tagged "perfect". However, this is not always so; sometimes the small details are intended to be noticed, but certain imperfections are still intended to be overlooked.


BP119 ("small correction results in circle vs. not") is an interesting example: imperfections matter with respect to the outline being closed, but imperfections do not matter with respect to circular-ness.


If a Bongard Problem on the OEBP is tagged "ignoreimperfections" -- i.e., it has imperfect hand drawings -- then other keywords are generally applied relative to the intended idea, a corrected version sans imperfect hand drawings. (For example, this is how the keywords precise and stable are applied. Alternative versions of these keywords, which factor in imperfect hand drawings, could be made instead, but that would be less useful.)




It may be better to change the definition of "perfect" so it only applies to Bongard Problems such that small changes can potentially switch an example's side / remove it from the Bongard Problem. That would cut down on the number of Bongard Problems to label "perfect". There isn't currently a single keyword for "small changes can potentially switch an example's side / remove it from the Bongard Problem", but this is basically captured by unstable or unstableworld. There is also deformunstable which uses a different notion of "small change". - Aaron David Fairbanks, Jun 16 2023

CROSSREFS

See BP508 for discussion of this topic in relation to Bongard Problems tagged precise.


Stable Bongard Problems are generally "perfect".

Pixelperfect implies "perfect".


The keywords proofsrequired and noproofs (BP1125) have a similar relationship: "noproofs" indicates a lenience for a certain kind of imperfection.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP908 BP909 BP910 BP911 BP912  *  BP914 BP915 BP916 BP917 BP918

EXAMPLE

Many Bongard Problems involving properties of curves (e.g. BP62) really are about those wiggly, imperfect curves; they qualify as "perfect" problems. On the other hand, Bongard Problems involving polygons, (e.g. BP5) often show only approximately-straight lines; they are not "perfect" problems.

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, wellfounded

WORLD

visualbp [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (perfect_bp)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP943 Visual Bongard Problems whose solutions cannot be deduced when viewed in template form vs. not so.
BP300
BP854
BP859
BP941
BP942
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COMMENTS

Left examples are not required to be valid, as long as their solution doesn't apply in the traditional Bongard Problem format (6 panels vs. 6 panels, all one image). Additionally, they do not necessarily have to be rendered invalid by being viewed in the template format, but their solution does have to be altered. In some cases left examples are simply Problems whose solution is specific to the computer medium (BP941), however some examples have more profound solutions that the pen-and-paper template medium is too restrictive to represent (BP854).

CROSSREFS

See BP568.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP938 BP939 BP940 BP941 BP942  *  BP944 BP945 BP946 BP947 BP948

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, oebp, time

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP947 BPs where users are advised to only upload images in which the pixelation is not misleading vs. other "perfect" Bongard Problems that use pixelated images to closely approximate the actual intended shapes.
BP1
BP31
BP210
BP211
BP217
BP279
BP321
BP324
BP325
BP335
BP341
BP367
BP386
BP523
BP548
BP859
BP860
BP861
BP892
BP920
BP934
BP935
BP966
BP1008
BP1088
BP1089
BP1090
BP1093
BP1104
BP1131
BP1156
BP1161
BP1168
BP1183
BP344
BP559
BP564
BP912
BP937
BP949
BP965
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "pixelperfect" on the OEBP.


All examples here are perfect Bongard Problems. That is, subtle imperfections in images are meant to be considered.


When a Problem is tagged with "pixelperfect", users are reminded to make sure they do not upload images such that taking the pixelation into account would affect the sorting of that example. That is, the zoomed-in jagged blocky version of the picture should still fit the solution.


For example, in the examples of BP335, which is about tessellation, the pixels interlock properly.

CROSSREFS

Stable Bongard Problems are generally pixelperfect.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP942 BP943 BP944 BP945 BP946  *  BP948 BP949 BP950 BP951 BP952

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, instruction

WORLD

perfect_bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP1000 Amusing Bongard Problems vs. other Bongard Problems
BP518
BP538
BP544
BP545
BP570
BP795
BP812
BP844
BP854
BP859
BP867
BP868
BP902
BP920
BP941
BP952
BP953
BP959
BP998
BP1000
BP1001
BP1007
BP1008
BP1056
BP1073
BP1141
BP1163
BP1193
BP1219
BP1263
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "funny" on the OEBP.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP995 BP996 BP997 BP998 BP999  *  BP1001 BP1002 BP1003 BP1004 BP1005

KEYWORD

less, subjective, culture, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-self, left-it, feedback, funny

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP1142 Bongard Problems where there is no way to turn an example into any other sorted example by adding black OR white (not both) vs. Bongard Problems where some example can be altered in this way and remain sorted.
BP285
BP304
BP328
BP329
BP342
BP801
BP934
BP1017
BP1056
BP1104
BP1145
BP1155
BP1156
BP1223
BP1269
BP859
BP962
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted problems have the keyword "finishedexamples" on the OEBP.


The addition does not have to be slight.


Left-sorted Problems usually have a very specific collection of examples, where the only images sorted all show the same type of object.


Any Bongard Problem where all examples are one shape outline will be sorted left, and (almost) any Bongard Problem where all examples are one fill shape will be sorted right.

CROSSREFS

See BP1144 for the version about both additions and erasures, and only slight changes are considered.


See BP1167 for a stricter version, the condition that all examples have the same amount of black and white.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1137 BP1138 BP1139 BP1140 BP1141  *  BP1143 BP1144 BP1145 BP1146 BP1147

KEYWORD

unwordable, notso, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, sideless, problemkiller

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP1144 Bongard Problems where making any small change to any sorted example renders the example unsortable vs. other Bongard Problems.
BP859
BP962
BP1104
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Problems usually have a very specific collection of examples, where the only images sorted all show the same type of object.

CROSSREFS

See unstable vs. stable, which is about examples switching sides upon small changes instead of being rendered unsortable.

See unstableworld vs. stableworld, which is about SOME small change to SOME example making it no longer fit in.

See BP1142 for the version only about additions of detail (no erasures), and with no restriction on them being slight additions.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1139 BP1140 BP1141 BP1142 BP1143  *  BP1145 BP1146 BP1147 BP1148 BP1149

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, problemkiller

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP1203 Bongard Problems where making a small change to some example makes it no longer fit in vs. Bongard Problems in which sufficiently small changes to examples keep them fitting in.
BP859
BP962
BP1104
BP1219
BP1
BP1220
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "unstableworld" on the OEBP.

Right-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "stableworld" on the OEBP.


In a "stableworld" Bongard Problem, no small change should outright make an example outright no longer fit in with the others in the Bongard Problem. It is allowed for a small change to make an example slightly less like all the others.


The meaning of "stableworld" is close to "examples have no particular format at all", but not quite the same.

CROSSREFS

See unstable vs. stable, which is about examples switching sides upon small changes instead of being rendered unsortable.

See BP1144, which is about ALL small changes to ALL examples making them unsortable.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1198 BP1199 BP1200 BP1201 BP1202  *  BP1204 BP1205 BP1206 BP1207 BP1208

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

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