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BP943 Visual Bongard Problems whose solutions cannot be deduced when viewed in template form vs. not so.
BP300
BP854
BP859
BP941
BP942
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COMMENTS

Left examples are not required to be valid, as long as their solution doesn't apply in the traditional Bongard Problem format (6 panels vs. 6 panels, all one image). Additionally, they do not necessarily have to be rendered invalid by being viewed in the template format, but their solution does have to be altered. In some cases left examples are simply Problems whose solution is specific to the computer medium (BP941), however some examples have more profound solutions that the pen-and-paper template medium is too restrictive to represent (BP854).

CROSSREFS

See BP568.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP938 BP939 BP940 BP941 BP942  *  BP944 BP945 BP946 BP947 BP948

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, oebp, time

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP944 Image of Bongard Problem that would sort ANY image of a valid Bongard Problem on one of its sides vs. image of Bongard Problem whose categorization of a BP image would depend on the solution or examples in it.
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COMMENTS

"Any" here means any image of a Bongard Problem in the relevant format, i.e. with white background, black vertical dividing line, and examples in boxes on either side.


All examples shown in this Problem clearly sort themselves on the left or right.


A self-referential but maybe simpler solution is "would sort all examples in this whole Bongard Problem on one of its sides vs. not so." Users adding examples please try to maintain this: for any example you add to the right of this Bongard Problem, make sure it does not sort all the other examples in this Bongard Problem on just one of its sides. - Aaron David Fairbanks, Aug 26 2020

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP939 BP940 BP941 BP942 BP943  *  BP945 BP946 BP947 BP948 BP949

KEYWORD

hard, challenge, presentationinvariant

WORLD

boxes_bpimage_sorts_self [smaller | same | bigger]
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AUTHOR

Jago Collins

BP945 Cube number of dots vs. non-cube number of dots.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP940 BP941 BP942 BP943 BP944  *  BP946 BP947 BP948 BP949 BP950

KEYWORD

precise, allsorted, number, left-null, help, preciseworld

CONCEPT cube (info | search)

WORLD

dots [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP946 Can be constructed using 2 identical copies of an image (full overlapping not allowed) vs. not so.
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COMMENTS

"Full overlapping not allowed" means you cannot overlay an image onto itself without moving it; if this were allowed all images would be sorted on the left. The copies can be moved around (translated) in 2D but can not be flipped or rotated.


There are examples on the right drawn with thick lines, and these could be created by copying an image with slightly thinner lines and moving it over a tiny amount. If you fix this issue by saying "the copy has to be moved over more than a tiny amount" then the Bongard Problem is perfect but not precise, but if you fix this issue by saying "interpret the figures as made up of (infinitesimally) thin lines" then it's precise but not perfect. - Aaron David Fairbanks, Jun 17 2023

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP941 BP942 BP943 BP944 BP945  *  BP947 BP948 BP949 BP950 BP951

KEYWORD

nice, notso, creativeexamples

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP947 BPs where users are advised to only upload images in which the pixelation is not misleading vs. other "perfect" Bongard Problems that use pixelated images to closely approximate the actual intended shapes.
BP1
BP31
BP210
BP211
BP217
BP279
BP321
BP324
BP325
BP335
BP341
BP367
BP386
BP523
BP548
BP859
BP860
BP861
BP892
BP920
BP934
BP935
BP966
BP1008
BP1088
BP1089
BP1090
BP1093
BP1104
BP1131
BP1156
BP1161
BP1168
BP1183
BP344
BP559
BP564
BP912
BP937
BP949
BP965
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "pixelperfect" on the OEBP.


All examples here are perfect Bongard Problems. That is, subtle imperfections in images are meant to be considered.


When a Problem is tagged with "pixelperfect", users are reminded to make sure they do not upload images such that taking the pixelation into account would affect the sorting of that example. That is, the zoomed-in jagged blocky version of the picture should still fit the solution.


For example, in the examples of BP335, which is about tessellation, the pixels interlock properly.

CROSSREFS

Stable Bongard Problems are generally pixelperfect.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP942 BP943 BP944 BP945 BP946  *  BP948 BP949 BP950 BP951 BP952

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, instruction

WORLD

perfect_bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP948 Image of Bongard Problem such that pixel-inverting examples flips the solution vs. image of Bongard Problem such that pixel-inverting examples leaves the solution invariant.
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CROSSREFS

See BP556 (keyword blackwhite) for the version with links to pages on the OEBP instead of images of Bongard Problems.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP943 BP944 BP945 BP946 BP947  *  BP949 BP950 BP951 BP952 BP953

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), miniproblems, presentationinvariant

CONCEPT black_white_inversion (info | search)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP949 Two unique distances between points vs. three unique distances between points.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP944 BP945 BP946 BP947 BP948  *  BP950 BP951 BP952 BP953 BP954

KEYWORD

nice, precise, allsorted, stretch, perfect, traditional, preciseworld

CONCEPT two (info | search),
three (info | search)

WORLD

3_or_4_points [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP950 Arbitrarily specific BP included in the OEBP database as a representative of a larger class of similar BPs vs. not.
BP100
BP121
BP158
BP170
BP197
BP230
BP231
BP232
BP839
BP911
BP920
BP1008
BP1027
BP1048
BP1058
BP1063
BP1068
BP1074
BP1075
BP1102
BP1105
BP1161
BP1168
BP1183
BP1192
BP1193
BP1226
BP1255
BP1260
BP1276
BP1286
BP1
BP950
?
BP538
?
BP545
?
BP902
?
BP1024
?
BP1073
?
BP1076
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "arbitrary" on the OEBP.


Arbitrary BPs often communicate non-arbitrary ideas. M. M. Bongard's original "A vs. Б" Problem (BP100) is about recognizing letters. A choice of some such arbitrary letters was necessary.


Most Bongard Problems are at least slightly arbitrary. Almost any Bongard Problem could be changed in a number of ways to make slightly different Bongard Problems. When a Bongard Problem is labeled as "arbitrary", that means there is one especially obvious class of similar Bongard Problems, with none of them particularly more interesting or special than any other.


The self-referential (invalid) Bongard Problems BP538, BP545, BP902, BP1073 fit this definition (the solution involves the arbitrary detail of being that specific Bongard Problem instead of any other). On the other hand, the solution idea is not arbitrary when phrased with "this Bongard Problem".


Many "arbitrary" Bongard Problems are of the form "Detail X has arbitrary value A vs. not so" or "Detail X has arbitrary value A vs. detail X has arbitrary value B". Other "arbitrary" Bongard Problems feature arbitrary details that are not the distinction between the sides, e.g. BP545.


It is unclear whether or not we should label a Bongard Problem "arbitrary" if the arbitrarily fixed detail is a notable special case. For example, BP1024 could have been made using any number, but the number 1 is a non-arbitrary number, so the Bongard Problem does not seem so arbitrary.

CROSSREFS

Similar to thespecificity concept BP (BP773), which is more general, including Bongard Problems relating conceptually in any way to arbitrary specificity.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP945 BP946 BP947 BP948 BP949  *  BP951 BP952 BP953 BP954 BP955

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, right-self, sideless

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP951 Process described leaves some inputs invariant vs. no output will resemble its input.
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?
?
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COMMENTS

There are many ambiguities here. The solver is expected to determine what things are "allowed" to be inputs for each process. To avoid confusion examples should not be sorted differently if you consider inputting nothing.



In each example there is at least some overlap between the set of possible inputs and the set of possible outputs for each process. If we did not apply this constraint, an easy example to be sorted right would be a process that turns blue shapes red.



A harder-to-read but more clearly defined version of this Problem could include within each example a mini Bongard Problem sorting left all allowed inputs for the process.

REFERENCE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_point_(mathematics)

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP946 BP947 BP948 BP949 BP950  *  BP952 BP953 BP954 BP955 BP956

KEYWORD

structure, rules, miniworlds

CONCEPT function (info | search)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP952 Images of Bongard Problems about images of Bongard Problems about images of Bongard Problems vs. images of Bongard Problems not including images of Bongard Problems including images of Bongard Problems.
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CROSSREFS

See BP547 for the version with links to pages on the OEBP instead of images of Bongard Problems (miniproblems).

Any left example in this BP will be a left example for BP1084.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP947 BP948 BP949 BP950 BP951  *  BP953 BP954 BP955 BP956 BP957

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), miniproblems, funny, presentationinvariant

CONCEPT recursion (info | search)

WORLD

[smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

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