Search: ex:BP1073
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BP544 |
| Everything vs. nothing. |
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All ideas and things, with no limits. |
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Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP539 BP540 BP541 BP542 BP543  *  BP545 BP546 BP547 BP548 BP549
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KEYWORD
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notso, meta (see left/right), links, world, left-self, right-finite, right-full, left-null, left-it, feedback, experimental, funny
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CONCEPT
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existence (info | search)
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WORLD
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everything [smaller | same] zoom in left (everything) | zoom in right (nothing)
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AUTHOR
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Aaron David Fairbanks
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BP547 |
| Meta Meta Bongard Problems vs. other Bongard Problems. |
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BP550 |
| Experimental Bongard Problems vs. traditional-style Bongard Problems. |
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Left examples have the keyword "experimental" on the OEBP.
Right examples have the keyword "traditional" on the OEBP.
Experimental BPs push the boundaries of what makes Bongard Problems Bongard Problems.
Traditional BPs show some simple property of black and white pictures. The OEBP is a place with many wild and absurd Bongard Problems, so it is useful to have an easy way to just find the regular old Bongard Problems. |
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CROSSREFS
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Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP545 BP546 BP547 BP548 BP549  *  BP551 BP552 BP553 BP554 BP555
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KEYWORD
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subjective, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-it
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WORLD
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bp [smaller | same | bigger]
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AUTHOR
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Aaron David Fairbanks
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BP687 |
| Bongard Problem with solution relating to concept: recursion vs. Bongard Problem unrelated to this concept. |
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BP691 |
| Bongard Problem with solution relating to concept: self-reference vs. Bongard Problem unrelated to this concept. |
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BP794 |
| Meta Bongard Problems that can contain an infinite chain of Bongard Problems containing Bongard Problems vs. this can never happen. |
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BP895 |
| Meta Bongard Problems that sort Bongard Problems based on other information than just their solutions (e.g. what format the Bongard Problem is, or what specific examples are shown in it) vs. Meta Bongard Problems that sort Bongard Problems purely based on solution. |
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Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "presentationmatters" on the OEBP.
Right-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "presentationinvariant" on the OEBP.
Meta Bongard problems that sort Bongard Problems purely based on their solutions usually have two versions in the database: one that sorts images of Bongard Problems and one that sorts links to pages on the OEBP. If both versions exist, users should make them cross-reference one another. (Meta Bongard Problems that sort images of Bongard Problems have the keyword miniproblems, whereas meta Bongard Problems that sort links to OEBP pages have the keyword links.)
For meta-pages on the OEBP that sort other pages on the OEBP (keyword links), "presentationmatters" means factoring in content like the BP number, the currently uploaded examples, the wording of the title, the description, and so on, rather than just the solution (that is, how the page would sort all potential examples). This is unusual.
"One solution vs. multiple solutions" (BP828) seems like a border-case. - Aaron David Fairbanks, Aug 01 2020 |
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CROSSREFS
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See BP1010 (projectionmatters versus 3d) for a similar idea: there 2D representations are to 3D objects as here Bongard Problems are to Bongard Problem solutions.
Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP890 BP891 BP892 BP893 BP894  *  BP896 BP897 BP898 BP899 BP900
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KEYWORD
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fuzzy, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, right-self, sideless, metameta, right-it, dependence, presentationinvariant
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WORLD
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metabp [smaller | same | bigger]
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AUTHOR
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Jago Collins
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BP950 |
| Arbitrarily specific BP included in the OEBP database as a representative of a larger class of similar BPs vs. not. |
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Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "arbitrary" on the OEBP.
Arbitrary BPs often communicate non-arbitrary ideas. M. M. Bongard's original "A vs. Б" Problem (BP100) is about recognizing letters. A choice of some such arbitrary letters was necessary.
Most Bongard Problems are at least slightly arbitrary. Almost any Bongard Problem could be changed in a number of ways to make slightly different Bongard Problems. When a Bongard Problem is labeled as "arbitrary", that means there is one especially obvious class of similar Bongard Problems, with none of them particularly more interesting or special than any other.
The self-referential (invalid) Bongard Problems BP538, BP545, BP902, BP1073 fit this definition (the solution involves the arbitrary detail of being that specific Bongard Problem instead of any other). On the other hand, the solution idea is not arbitrary when phrased with "this Bongard Problem".
Many "arbitrary" Bongard Problems are of the form "Detail X has arbitrary value A vs. not so" or "Detail X has arbitrary value A vs. detail X has arbitrary value B". Other "arbitrary" Bongard Problems feature arbitrary details that are not the distinction between the sides, e.g. BP545.
It is unclear whether or not we should label a Bongard Problem "arbitrary" if the arbitrarily fixed detail is a notable special case. For example, BP1024 could have been made using any number, but the number 1 is a non-arbitrary number, so the Bongard Problem does not seem so arbitrary. |
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Similar to thespecificity concept BP (BP773), which is more general, including Bongard Problems relating conceptually in any way to arbitrary specificity.
Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP945 BP946 BP947 BP948 BP949  *  BP951 BP952 BP953 BP954 BP955
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KEYWORD
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meta (see left/right), links, keyword, right-self, sideless
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WORLD
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bp [smaller | same | bigger]
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AUTHOR
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Aaron David Fairbanks
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BP1000 |
| Amusing Bongard Problems vs. other Bongard Problems |
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BP1073 |
| Bongard Problems that would sort this Bongard Problem left vs. Bongard Problems that would sort this Bongard Problem right. |
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This is the "it" Problem.
Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "left-it" on the OEBP.
Right-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "right-it" on the OEBP. |
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CROSSREFS
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Left-it or right-it implies feedback.
Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1068 BP1069 BP1070 BP1071 BP1072  *  BP1074 BP1075 BP1076 BP1077 BP1078
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KEYWORD
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nice, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, side, metameta, feedback, time, experimental, funny, testexample, presentationinvariant
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CONCEPT
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recursion (info | search), self-reference (info | search)
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WORLD
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linksbp [smaller | same | bigger]
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AUTHOR
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Aaron David Fairbanks
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