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BP954 Solution could appear in a Bongard Problem that has itself as a panel vs. not so.
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COMMENTS

Loosely speaking, examples on the left are "Bongard Problems that can be self-similar". However, Bongard Problems with images of themselves deeply nested in boxes or rotated/flipped are not here considered "self-similar"; the Bongard Problem must use itself, as-is (allowing downward scaling and allowing infinite detail, ignoring pixelation--see keyword infinitedetail), as a panel.


Bongard Problems fitting left evidently come in three categories: 1) the Bongard Problem could only appear on its own left side, 2) the Bongard Problem could appear on its own right side, or 3) the Bongard Problem could appear on its own left or the right side. See BP987.


Meta Bongard Problems appearing in BP793 that are presentationinvariant necessarily fit left here.


All examples here are in the conventional format, i.e. white background, black vertical dividing line, and examples in boxes on either side. (A more general version of this Bongard Problem might allow many formats of Bongard Problems, sorting an image left if a self-similar version is possible having the same solution and format. This more general version would no longer be tagged presentationinvariant, since sorting would not only depend on solution, but also format.)


It would hint at the solution (keyword help) to only include images of Bongard Problems that, as it stands, are already clearly categorized on one side by themselves. (That is, images of Bongard Problems that belong on one of the two sides of BP793.) It is tricky to come up with images that are categorized by themselves as it stands but that could NOT be recursively included within themselves. EX7967, EX7999, EX7995, and EX6574 are some examples.

CROSSREFS

See BP987 which narrows down the left-hand side of this BP further based on whether or not the BP could contain itself as a panel on both sides.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP949 BP950 BP951 BP952 BP953  *  BP955 BP956 BP957 BP958 BP959

KEYWORD

hard, abstract, challenge, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, infinitedetail, presentationinvariant, visualimagination

CONCEPT fractal (info | search),
recursion (info | search),
self-reference (info | search)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP955 Images of Bongard Problems that sort an image of their left side on their left and an image of their right side on their left vs. images of Bongard Problems that sort an image of their left side on their right and an image of their right side on their right.
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CROSSREFS

See also BP957 for the other two evident possibilities.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP950 BP951 BP952 BP953 BP954  *  BP956 BP957 BP958 BP959 BP960

KEYWORD

abstract, dual, handed, leftright, solved, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, creativeexamples, assumesfamiliarity, structure, experimental

CONCEPT self-reference (info | search)

WORLD

oblong_boxes_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_skewed [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (oblong_boxes_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_left) | zoom in right (oblong_boxes_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_right)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP957 Images of Bongard Problems that sort an image of their left side on their left and an image of their right side on their right vs. images of Bongard Problems that sort an image of their left side on their right and an image of their right side on their left.
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CROSSREFS

See also BP955 for the other two evident possibilities.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP952 BP953 BP954 BP955 BP956  *  BP958 BP959 BP960 BP961 BP962

KEYWORD

nice, abstract, solved, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, creativeexamples, assumesfamiliarity, structure, experimental

CONCEPT self-reference (info | search)

WORLD

oblong_panels_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_balanced [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (oblong_panels_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_stay) | zoom in right (oblong_panels_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_swap)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP958 Visual Bongard Problems about examples being read with infinite detail vs. other visual Bongard Problems.
BP529
BP530
BP531
BP532
BP533
BP543
BP852
BP953
BP954
BP959
BP961
BP1058
BP1059
BP1060
BP1061
BP1062
BP1063
BP1065
BP1066
BP1067
BP1068
BP1069
BP1070
BP1071
BP1077
BP1084
BP1098
BP1107
BP1108
BP1114
BP1115
BP1116
BP1118
BP1119
BP1120

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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "infinitedetail" on the OEBP.


Image files on the OEBP do not really have infinite detail. For a panel to be intuitively read as having infinite detail, there usually needs to be some apparent self-similarity, or perhaps a sequence of objects following an easy to read pattern getting smaller and smaller with increasing pixelation.


Usually in "infinitedetail" Bongard Problems, not only is it a puzzle to figure out the solution, but it is another puzzle to find self-similarities and understand the intended infinite detail in each example.

CROSSREFS

BPs tagged with the keyword "infinitedetail" usually feature pixelated images that give the closest approximation of the intended infinite structure up to pixelation. This means they should be tagged with the keyword perfect, but should not be tagged with the keyword pixelperfect.


Just because a Bongard Problem has "infinitedetail" does not necessarily make it infodense. Some fractal images might be encoded by a small amount of information (just the information about which places within itself it includes smaller copies of itself) and may be recognized quickly.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP953 BP954 BP955 BP956 BP957  *  BP959 BP960 BP961 BP962 BP963

KEYWORD

notso, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, wellfounded

WORLD

visualbp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP959 This image of this Bongard Problem vs. empty image.
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CROSSREFS

See BP953, BP902.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP954 BP955 BP956 BP957 BP958  *  BP960 BP961 BP962 BP963 BP964

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), miniproblems, left-finite, right-finite, left-full, right-full, right-null, perfect, infinitedetail, finished, experimental, funny

CONCEPT fractal (info | search),
recursion (info | search),
self-reference (info | search)

WORLD

zoom in left | zoom in right (blank_image)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks, Leo Crabbe

BP960 Bongard Problems that require the solver to create their own new picture in the process of solving vs. other Bongard Problems.
BP927
BP954
BP987
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "visualimagination" on the OEBP.


Many things might be called "creating a picture". For example, drawing a path in a maze. However, use this keyword to indicate a Bongard Problem requires the solver to create something totally new "on a separate piece of paper" (whether mentally or physically), beyond just annotating the existing picture.

CROSSREFS

A "visualimagination" BP will likely be hardsort.

"Visualimagination" BPs are abstract.

"Visualimagination" BPs are are often about deciding whether some potential thing exists. (See BP634 for Bongard Problems featuring the concept ofexistence.) One can demonstrate it exists by constructing it.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP955 BP956 BP957 BP958 BP959  *  BP961 BP962 BP963 BP964 BP965

KEYWORD

notso, meta (see left/right), links, keyword

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP963 Bongard Problems in which small changes to examples can switch their sorting vs. Bongard Problems in which examples changed slightly enough remain sorted the same way.
BP1
BP4
BP15
BP72
BP211
BP324
BP325
BP335
BP344
BP348
BP367
BP368
BP523
BP816
BP860
BP861
BP920
BP935
BP937
BP2
BP9
BP11
BP14
BP34
BP62
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "unstable" on the OEBP.

Right examples have the keyword "stable" on the OEBP.


For the purposes of this Bongard Problem, "small change" means adding to or removing from an arbitrarily small portion of the image. Other kinds of small change could be explored, such as making changes in multiple small places, translating, rotating, scaling, or deforming the whole image slightly (see also keywords deformunstable vs. deformstable), or even context-dependent small changes (e.g., changing the shadings slightly in BP196, or making small 3d changes to the represented 3d objects in BP333), but they are not considered here.


In a "stable" Bongard Problem, no small change should outright flip an example's sorting. It is allowed for a small change to make an example sorted slightly more ambiguously.


Small changes that make an example no longer even fit in with the format of a Bongard Problem are not considered. (Otherwise, far fewer Bongard Problems would be called "stable".)


For whether small changes make an example no longer fit in with the Bongard Problem, see unstableworld vs. stableworld.


If a Bongard Problem is shown with imperfect hand drawings (keyword ignoreimperfections), it is fine to apply the keyword "unstable" ignoring this. For instance, a hand-drawn version of BP344 would still be tagged "unstable", even though it would show examples wrong by small amounts.

(Note: a BP would only be tagged "ignoreimperfections" in the first place if the underlying idea were such that several small changes could make an example switch sides, no longer fit in with the format of the Bongard Problem, or otherwise be ambiguously sorted.)

CROSSREFS

Stable Bongard Problems are generally perfect and pixelperfect.

Gap (technically) implies stable. (However, in practice it has seemed unnatural to tag BPs "stable" when ALL small changes render certain examples unsortable, as is sometimes the case in "gap" BPs.)


Unstable Bongard Problems are often precise.

Stable Bongard Problems tend to either be fuzzy or otherwise either have a gap or be not allsorted.


See BP1144, which is about all small changes making all examples unsortable rather than some small change making some example switch sides.


See BP1140, which is about any (perhaps large) additions of detail instead of small changes.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP958 BP959 BP960 BP961 BP962  *  BP964 BP965 BP966 BP967 BP968

EXAMPLE

BP1 is unstable because it's possible to change nothing slightly by adding a pixel to end up with something.

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, stability

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP964 Bongard Problems such that making repeated small changes can switch an example's sorting vs. Bongard Problems in which the two sides are so different that it is impossible to cross the gap by making successive small changes to examples while staying within the class of examples sorted by the Bongard Problem (there is no middle-ground between the sides; there is no obvious choice of shared ambient context both sides are part of).
BP2
BP4
BP8
BP9
BP3
BP16
BP23
BP363
BP962
BP1219
BP1253
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COMMENTS

Right-sorted BPs have the keyword "gap" on the OEBP.


A Bongard Problem with a gap showcases two completely separate classes of objects.


For example, the Bongard Problem "white vs. black" (BP962) has a gap; there is no obvious choice of shared context between the two sides. One could imagine there is a spectrum of grays between them, or that there is a space of partially filled black-and-white images between them, or any number of other ambient contexts.


Bongard Problems about comparing quantities on a spectrum should not usually be considered "gap" BPs. (Discrete spectra perhaps.) A spectrum establishes a shared context, with examples on both sides of the BP landing somewhere on it. (However, if it is reasonable to imagine getting the solution without noticing a spectrum in between, it could be a gap, since the ambient context is unclear.)


Bongard Problems with gaps may seem particularly arbitrary when the two classes of objects are particularly unrelated.

CROSSREFS

If a Bongard Problem has a "gap" it is likely precise: it will likely be clear on which side any potential example fits.


"Gap" implies stable. (This technically includes cases in which ALL small changes make certain examples no longer fit in with the Bongard Problem, as is sometimes the case in "gap" BPs. See also BP1144.)


See also preciseworld. "Gap" Bongard Problems would be tagged "preciseworld" when the two classes of objects are each clear; it is then apparent that there is no larger shared context and that no other types of objects besides the two types would be sorted by the Bongard Problem.


See BP1140, which is about any (perhaps large) additions instead of repeated small changes.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP959 BP960 BP961 BP962 BP963  *  BP965 BP966 BP967 BP968 BP969

KEYWORD

unwordable, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, sideless, invariance

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP967 Keywords on the OEBP that observe properties of Bongard Problems vs. keywords on the OEBP that tag Bongard Problems with instruction for users.
BP501
BP503
BP506
BP507
BP508
BP509
BP510
BP511
BP512
BP513
BP514
BP515
BP516
BP517
BP518
BP519
BP520
BP521
BP522
BP534
BP535
BP537
BP546
BP547
BP549
BP550
BP552
BP553
BP554
BP556
BP563
BP565
BP567
BP568
BP571

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BP504
BP919
BP930
BP947
BP1125
BP1243
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COMMENTS

Right examples have the keyword "instruction" on the OEBP.

CROSSREFS

See also the keyword presentationmatters.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP962 BP963 BP964 BP965 BP966  *  BP968 BP969 BP970 BP971 BP972

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, oebp, left-self

WORLD

keyword [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP968 Valid Bongard Problem vs. invalid Bongard Problem.
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COMMENTS

"Invalid Bongard Problems" are images that look sort of like Bongard Problems but aren't actually Bongard Problems.


With many examples included, this Problem might be placed somewhere to nonverbally show someone the subtler rules about what is allowed and what isn't allowed in Bongard Problems.


See BP829 for the Bongard Problem about Bongard Problems with no clear solution.

CROSSREFS

See BP522 (flipped) for a version with links to pages on the OEBP instead of images of Bongard Problems (miniproblems).


See BP829 (flipped) for a near exact copy of this Bongard Problem idea but that does not include images with two of the same boxes on either side.

Also see BP1080, which includes various different formats of Bongard Problems, distinguishing them from arbitrary images that are not Bongard Problems.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP963 BP964 BP965 BP966 BP967  *  BP969 BP970 BP971 BP972 BP973

KEYWORD

teach, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, assumesfamiliarity, structure

AUTHOR

Jago Collins

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