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BP796 Image of a Bongard Problem that would sort a blank panel on its left versus image of a Bongard Problem that would sort a blank panel on its right.
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CROSSREFS

See BP567 for the version with links to pages on the OEBP instead of images of Bongard Problems (miniproblems).

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP791 BP792 BP793 BP794 BP795  *  BP797 BP798 BP799 BP800 BP801

KEYWORD

hard, nice, abstract, dual, handed, leftright, challenge, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, creativeexamples, assumesfamiliarity, structure, presentationinvariant

WORLD

boxes_bpimage [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP795 Image of a Bongard Problem that would sort itself on its own right versus image of a Bongard Problem that would sort itself on its own left.
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COMMENTS

"BONGARD HELL."

This the flipped version of BP793 but using only images of Bongard Problems with solution "__ half more black/less white than other half versus vice versa," that all use rotated, reflected, and inverted versions of the same examples.

CROSSREFS

See BP971 (left vs. right more black) and BP972 (top vs. bottom more black).

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP790 BP791 BP792 BP793 BP794  *  BP796 BP797 BP798 BP799 BP800

KEYWORD

hard, nice, abstract, dual, handed, leftright, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, presentationmatters, left-finite, right-finite, assumesfamiliarity, structure, experimental, funny

WORLD

bongard_hell [smaller | same | bigger]
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AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP794 Meta Bongard Problems that can contain an infinite chain of Bongard Problems containing Bongard Problems vs. this can never happen.
BP794
BP1073
BP552
BP553
BP554
BP556
BP567
BP572
BP838
BP913
BP958
BP976
BP995
BP1079
BP1081
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COMMENTS

Right examples have the keyword "wellfounded" on the OEBP.


This BP is not wellfounded, but its right side is. A paradoxical BP would be "Meta Bongard Problems that can contain an infinite chain of Bongard Problems containing Bongard Problems on the right side vs. this can never happen": where does it sort itself?

CROSSREFS

left-self or right-self implies not wellfounded.


Wellfounded implies not feedback.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP789 BP790 BP791 BP792 BP793  *  BP795 BP796 BP797 BP798 BP799

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-self, metameta, left-it, feedback

CONCEPT recursion (info | search)

WORLD

linksbp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP793 Image of a Bongard Problem that would sort itself on its own left versus image of a Bongard Problem that would sort itself on its own right.
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COMMENTS

Rhetorical question: Where does this Bongard Problem sort an image of itself?

See BP999 and BP1004 for similar paradoxes.


Bongard Problems fitting left here evidently come in three categories: 1) would sort all Bongard Problems with the same solution left, 2) would sort all Bongard Problems with the same solution right, or 3) would sort some Bongard Problems with the same solution left and some right. See BP927.

CROSSREFS

See BP517 for the version with links to pages on the OEBP instead of images of Bongard Problems (miniproblems).


See BP954, which is about Bongard Problems not only sorting themselves, but moreover fractally appearing in themselves as panels.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP788 BP789 BP790 BP791 BP792  *  BP794 BP795 BP796 BP797 BP798

KEYWORD

hard, nice, abstract, dual, handed, leftright, solved, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, creativeexamples, presentationmatters, assumesfamiliarity, structure, experimental

WORLD

boxes_bpimage_sorts_self [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (boxes_bpimage_sorts_self_left) | zoom in right (boxes_bpimage_sorts_self_right)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP789 Bongard Problems in which all examples have the same format, a specific multi-part structure vs. other Bongard Problems.
BP200
BP324
BP325
BP339
BP346
BP350
BP351
BP352
BP353
BP354
BP355
BP356
BP357
BP361
BP362
BP372
BP548
BP790
BP791
BP793
BP795
BP796
BP802
BP803
BP805
BP827
BP828
BP829
BP831
BP832
BP833
BP834
BP835
BP836
BP843

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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "structure" on the OEBP.


Examples of "structures": Bongard Problem, Bongard Problem with extra unsorted panel ("Bongard's Dozen"), 4-panel analogy grid, sequence of objects with a quantity changing by a constant amount.


If the solver hasn't become familiar with the featured structure, the Bongard Problem's solution may seem convoluted or inelegant. (See keyword assumesfamiliarity.) Once the solver gets used to seeing a particular structure it becomes easier to read that structure and solve Bongard Problems featuring it.


A Bongard Problem can non-verbally teach someone how a particular structure works, showing valid examples of that structure versus non-examples. E.g., BP968 for the structure of Bongard Problems and BP981 for the structure of analogy grids.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP784 BP785 BP786 BP787 BP788  *  BP790 BP791 BP792 BP793 BP794

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword

WORLD

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AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP575 Non-number-based Bongard Problems vs. Bongard Problems whose solutions only depend on counting the number of something.
BP6
BP10
BP23
BP85
BP86
BP87
BP88
BP89
BP90
BP91
BP96
BP98
BP107
BP110
BP150
BP202
BP203
BP204
BP232
BP277
BP334
BP384
BP569
BP889
BP915
BP945
BP966
BP988
BP989
BP1226
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COMMENTS

Right examples have the keyword "number" on the OEBP. The solution must only depend on counting the number of something: no comparison between numbers of different things.


When a "number" Bongard Problem sorts numbers unambiguously (keyword precise), the left side and the right side define disjoint sets of numbers. When a "number" Bongard Problem sorts all numbers (keyword allsorted), the subsets are complements of one another.


Many but not all right examples require nontrivial mathematical knowledge to solve (keyword math).

CROSSREFS

BP200 is a version of this with sides flipped, sorting pictures of Bongard Problems (miniproblems) instead of links to pages on the OEBP, and with emphasis on feature-based solutions as an alternative to number-based solutions.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP570 BP571 BP572 BP573 BP574  *  BP576 BP577 BP578 BP579 BP580

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, dependence

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP574 BP page intends to include all possible examples fitting right vs. other BP pages.
BP544
BP854
BP953
BP959
BP962
BP1056
BP1141
BP1219
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted BPs have the keyword "right-full" on the OEBP.


BPs are sorted based on how BP573 (left-full) would sort them were they flipped; see that page for a description.

CROSSREFS

For non-meta BPs, right-full implies right-finite (at least until the OEBP implements a feature that allows algorithmic generation of infinite examples).

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP569 BP570 BP571 BP572 BP573  *  BP575 BP576 BP577 BP578 BP579

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword

WORLD

bppage [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP573 BP page intends to include all possible examples fitting left vs. other BP pages.
BP1
BP537
BP854
BP868
BP902
BP920
BP959
BP962
BP1056
BP1156
BP1219
BP1220
BP1263
BP867
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted BPs have the keyword "left-full" on the OEBP.


For meta-BPs about solution ideas, left-full only means the BP page hopes to include all fitting BP pages on the OEBP (as opposed to all possible Bongard Problems).


As with applying the keywords left-finite and right-finite, deciding what should count as "different" examples depends on the Bongard Problem.


Note this is not just BP574 (right-full) flipped.


TODO: Maybe this should be changed into two keywords: one for non-meta-BPs and one for meta-BPs. - Aaron David Fairbanks, Feb 11 2021

CROSSREFS

For non-meta BPs, left-full implies left-finite (at least until the OEBP implements a feature that allows algorithmic generation of infinite examples).

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP568 BP569 BP570 BP571 BP572  *  BP574 BP575 BP576 BP577 BP578

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword

WORLD

bppage [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP572 Physical Bongard Problems vs. other visual Bongard Problems
BP199
BP234
BP273
BP274
BP336
BP358
BP366
BP367
BP536
BP551
BP850
BP896
BP933
BP1016
BP1095
BP1256
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "physics" on the OEBP. These are visual Bongard Problems that are most easily recognized by people as depicting some physics-related phenomenon. Usually, since physics is described by mathematics, this means there is also a (perhaps complicated) solution that can be described in terms of pure geometry.

CROSSREFS

See also keyword math.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP567 BP568 BP569 BP570 BP571  *  BP573 BP574 BP575 BP576 BP577

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, wellfounded

WORLD

visualbp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP571 Bongard Problems that require mathematical understanding to solve vs. other Bongard Problems.
BP171
BP203
BP319
BP326
BP327
BP333
BP334
BP335
BP339
BP340
BP341
BP344
BP369
BP370
BP378
BP380
BP381
BP382
BP384
BP505
BP560
BP562
BP563
BP569
BP576
BP788
BP790
BP791
BP797
BP801
BP806
BP809
BP810
BP811
BP813

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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "math" on the OEBP.


Although everything is arguably related to math, these BP solutions include content that people don't inherently understand without learning at least some mathematics.


Left examples do not technically have "culturally-dependent" content (keyword culture), but knowledge and previous learning plays a role in how easy they are to solve.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP566 BP567 BP568 BP569 BP570  *  BP572 BP573 BP574 BP575 BP576

KEYWORD

fuzzy, meta (see left/right), links, keyword

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

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