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BP507 Bongard Problems about comparison of quantity vs. other Bongard Problems.
BP2
BP11
BP12
BP28
BP29
BP34
BP36
BP37
BP38
BP53
BP62
BP65
BP67
BP79
BP173
BP176
BP196
BP211
BP292
BP338
BP501
BP565
BP869
BP882
BP915
BP971
BP972
BP978
BP1044
BP1046
BP1208
BP1
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BP6
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COMMENTS

Bongard Problems sorted left have the keyword "spectrum" on the OEBP.


In a "spectrum" Bongard Problem, there is an evident way to assign each object a value (e.g. "size" or "number of holes"). Then, to determine whether an object fits left or right in the Bongard Problem, its value is compared with a fixed threshold value.


Spectra can be continuous or discrete.


A "spectrum" Bongard Problem is usually arbitrary, since there could be made many different versions of it with different choices of threshold value. However, sometimes a certain choice of threshold is particularly natural. For example, the threshold of 90 degrees in "acute vs. obtuse angles" does not come across as arbitrary. And in BP2, the spectrum of values ("size") is vague, so much that the fuzzy threshold, of about half the size of the bounding box, does not seem arbitrary.


A spectrum Bongard Problem may or may not have the following properties:

1) The values assigned to objects are precise.

2) The threshold value between the two sides is precise.

3) The threshold value is itself sorted on one of the two sides.

Each of the latter two typically only makes sense when the condition before it is true.


If a spectrum Bongard Problem obeys 1) and 2), then it will usually be precise.

For example:

"Angles less than 90° vs. angles greater than 90°."


If a spectrum Bongard Problem obeys 1), 2), and 3), then it will usually be allsorted.

For example:

"Angles less than or equal to 90° vs. angles greater than 90°."


In a discrete spectrum Bongard Problem, even if it is precise, there isn't one unambiguous threshold value. Consider "2 or fewer holes vs. 3 or more holes". (Is the threshold 2? 3? 2.5?)


In an especially extreme kind of spectrum Bongard Problem, one side represents just a single value, just the threshold value. For example, "right angles vs. obtuse angles." In certain cases like this the threshold is an extreme value at the very boundary of the spectrum of possible values. For example, consider "no holes vs. one or more holes." Cases like this might not even be understood as two sides of a spectrum, but rather the absence versus presence of a property. (See the keyword notso.)


Even more extreme, in some Bongard Problems, each of the sides is a single value on a spectrum. For example, BP6 is "3 sides vs. 4 sides". We have not been labeling Bongard Problems like this with the keyword "spectrum".


After all, any Bongard Problem can be re-interpreted as a spectrum Bongard Problem, where the spectrum ranges from the extreme of fitting left to the extreme of fitting right.

REFERENCE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_order

CROSSREFS

See BP874 for the version sorting pictures of Bongard Problems (miniproblems) instead of links to pages on the OEBP.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP502 BP503 BP504 BP505 BP506  *  BP508 BP509 BP510 BP511 BP512

KEYWORD

notso, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, sideless

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (spectrum_bp)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP550 Experimental Bongard Problems vs. traditional-style Bongard Problems.
BP195
BP200
BP300
BP359
BP538
BP544
BP545
BP548
BP555
BP570
BP793
BP795
BP797
BP801
BP812
BP813
BP844
BP854
BP859
BP862
BP868
BP902
BP911
BP915
BP920
BP939
BP941
BP942
BP953
BP955
BP957
BP959
BP1008
BP1056
BP1073

. . .

BP1
BP2
BP3
BP4
BP5
BP6
BP7
BP8
BP9
BP10
BP11
BP12
BP13
BP14
BP15
BP16
BP17
BP18
BP19
BP20
BP21
BP22
BP23
BP24
BP25
BP26
BP27
BP28
BP29
BP30
BP31
BP32
BP33
BP34
BP35

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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "experimental" on the OEBP.

Right examples have the keyword "traditional" on the OEBP.


Experimental BPs push the boundaries of what makes Bongard Problems Bongard Problems.


Traditional BPs show some simple property of black and white pictures. The OEBP is a place with many wild and absurd Bongard Problems, so it is useful to have an easy way to just find the regular old Bongard Problems.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP545 BP546 BP547 BP548 BP549  *  BP551 BP552 BP553 BP554 BP555

KEYWORD

subjective, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-it

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP567 Visual Bongard Problems that would sort a blank panel on the left vs. visual Bongard Problems that would sort a blank panel on the right.
BP1
BP137
BP384
BP525
BP544
BP569
BP904
BP905
BP915
BP945
BP962
BP1056
BP1219
BP1260
BP1261
BP1262
BP211
BP334
BP364
BP541
BP542
BP902
BP953
BP959
BP966
BP988
BP989
BP1008
BP1080
BP1089
BP1093
BP1108
BP1141
BP1151
BP1161
BP1220
BP1249
BP1252
BP1263
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted BPs have the keyword "left-null" on the OEBP.

Right-sorted BPs have the keyword "right-null" on the OEBP.

CROSSREFS

See BP796 for the version with pictures of Bongard Problems (miniproblems) instead of links to pages on the OEBP.

See BP1160 for the version about an all-black panel instead of all-white.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP562 BP563 BP564 BP565 BP566  *  BP568 BP569 BP570 BP571 BP572

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, side, wellfounded, testexample

WORLD

visualbp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP637 Bongard Problem with solution relating to concept: finite / infinite vs. Bongard Problem unrelated to this concept.
BP380
BP543
BP792
BP915
BP1032
BP1059
BP1067
BP1069
BP1070
BP1079
BP1081
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP632 BP633 BP634 BP635 BP636  *  BP638 BP639 BP640 BP641 BP642

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, metaconcept, primitive

CONCEPT This MBP is about BPs that feature concept: "finite_infinite"
Searchable synonyms: "infinity".

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Harry E. Foundalis

BP821 Impossible Bongard Problems vs. possible Bongard Problems.
BP868
BP915
BP1263
BP252
BP821
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COMMENTS

Bongard Problems sorted left have the keyword "impossible" on the OEBP.


"Impossible Bongard Problem" is a loose term, but it roughly means the Bongard Problem solution idea can't be displayed as an image.


BP868, the version of this whose examples are images of Bongard Problems (miniproblems), rather than links to pages on the OEBP, is impossible. - Aaron David Fairbanks, Jul 29 2020

CROSSREFS

See overriddensolution for solutions that Bongard Problems can have, but that will not be chosen by a reasonable person as the best solution.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP816 BP817 BP818 BP819 BP820  *  BP822 BP823 BP824 BP825 BP826

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, right-self

CONCEPT impossible (info | search)

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP867 Bongard Problem with solution that can be naturally expressed as "___ vs. not so" vs. not so.
BP32
BP77
BP82
BP127
BP243
BP257
BP274
BP288
BP323
BP344
BP376
BP381
BP385
BP390
BP506
BP507
BP515
BP516
BP538
BP541
BP542
BP544
BP545
BP553
BP559
BP569
BP576
BP812
BP816
BP818
BP823
BP825
BP852
BP866
BP867

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BP6

Qat

blimp

notso

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COMMENTS

Left-sorted BPs have the keyword "notso" on the OEBP.


This meta Bongard Problem is about Bongard Problems featuring two rules that are conceptual opposites.


Sometimes both sides could be seen as the "not" side: consider, for example, two definitions of the same Bongard Problem, "shape has hole vs. does not" and "shape is not filled vs. is". It is possible (albeit perhaps unnatural) to phrase the solution either way when the left and right sides partition all possible relevant examples cleanly into two groups (see the allsorted keyword).


When one property is "positive-seeming" and its opposite is "negative-seeming", it usually means the positive property would be recognized without counter-examples (e.g. a collection of triangles will be seen as such), while the negative property wouldn't be recognized without counter-examples (e.g. a collection of "non-triangle shapes" will just be interpreted as "shapes" unless triangles are shown opposite them).


BP513 (keyword left-narrow) is about Bongard Problems whose left side can be recognized without the right side. When a Bongard Problem is left-narrow and not "right-narrow that usually makes the property on the left seem positive and the property on the right seem negative.


The OEBP by convention has preferred the "positive-seeming" property (when there is one) to be on the left side.


All in all, the keyword "notso" should mean:

1) If the Bongard Problem is "narrow" on at least one side, then it is left-narrow.

2) The right side is the conceptual negation of the left side.


If a Bongard Problem's solution is "[Property A] vs. not so", the "not so" side is everything without [Property A] within some suitable context. A Bongard Problem "triangles vs. not so" might only include simple shapes as non-triangles; it need not include images of boats as non-triangles. It is not necessary for all the kitchen sink to be thrown on the "not so" side (although it is here).

CROSSREFS

See BP1001 for a version sorting pictures of Bongard Problems (miniproblems) instead of links to pages on the OEBP. (This version is a little different. In BP1001, the kitchen sink of all other possible images is always included on the right "not so" side, rather than a context-dependent conceptual negation.)


Contrast keyword viceversa.


"[Property A] vs. not so" Bongard Problems are often allsorted, meaning they sort all relevant examples--but not always, because sometimes there exist ambiguous border cases, unclear whether they fit [Property A] or not.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP862 BP863 BP864 BP865 BP866  *  BP868 BP869 BP870 BP871 BP872

KEYWORD

notso, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-self, funny

WORLD

everything [smaller | same]
zoom in left

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP1121 Bongard Problems that were added to the OEBP to be used as examples in particular meta-BPs vs. other Bongard Problems,
BP570
BP868
BP915
BP1042
BP1043
BP1105
BP1141
BP1150
BP1163
BP1168
BP1227
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COMMENTS

Bongard Problems sorted left have the keyword "example" on the OEBP.


Plea to the reader: We need a good counterexample for this Problem. Could you please make a good example of a Problem this meta BP would sort on its right? Don't forget to tag it appropriately. - Leo Crabbe, Dec 13 2021

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1116 BP1117 BP1118 BP1119 BP1120  *  BP1122 BP1123 BP1124 BP1125 BP1126

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, oebp

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

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