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BP915 Finite number of dots vs. infinite number of dots.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP910 BP911 BP912 BP913 BP914  *  BP916 BP917 BP918 BP919 BP920

KEYWORD

less, notso, spectrum, number, example, left-null, impossible, experimental

CONCEPT finite_infinite (info | search)

WORLD

dots [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Jago Collins

BP941 JPEG image vs. PNG image.
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COMMENTS

Evidently this solution is stretching the idea of what makes images "different". Each corresponding pair of panels would be parsed as identical in any other case. It is worth noting that if you view this Problem on a template, the solution no longer applies at all.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP936 BP937 BP938 BP939 BP940  *  BP942 BP943 BP944 BP945 BP946

KEYWORD

less, precise, dual, antihuman, contributepairs, invalid, experimental, funny

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP959 This image of this Bongard Problem vs. empty image.
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CROSSREFS

See BP953, BP902.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP954 BP955 BP956 BP957 BP958  *  BP960 BP961 BP962 BP963 BP964

KEYWORD

less, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, left-finite, right-finite, left-full, right-full, right-null, perfect, infinitedetail, finished, experimental, funny

CONCEPT fractal (info | search),
recursion (info | search),
self-reference (info | search)

WORLD

zoom in left | zoom in right (blank_image)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks, Leo Crabbe

BP998 X "X _" vs. all are "X _"; X Y.
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COMMENTS

Right:

All are "all but one are ___"; all but one are black.

All are "every other is ___"; every other is solid polygons.

All are "gradually becoming ___"; gradually becoming thickly outlined.

Left:

All but one are "all but one are ___".

Every other is "every other is ___".

Gradually becoming "gradually becoming ___".


Here is another way of putting it:

Call it "meta" when the whole imitates its parts, and call it "doubly-meta" when the whole imitates its parts with respect to the way it imitates its parts. Left are doubly-meta, while right are just meta.


Here is a more belabored way of putting it:

Call something like "is star-shaped" a "rule". An object can satisfy a rule.

Call something like "all but one are ___" a "rule-parametrized rule". A collection of objects can satisfy a rule-parametrized rule with respect to a particular rule.

On the right: every collection fits the same rule-parametrized rule (with respect to various rules); furthermore the collection of collections fits that same rule-parametrized rule (with respect to some unrelated rule that collections can satisfy).

On the left: The collection of collections fits a rule-parametrized rule with respect to the rule of fitting that rule-parametrized rule (with respect to various rules).


Previously, an unintended solution to this BP was "not all groups share some noticeable property vs. all do." It is hard to come up with examples foiling this alternative solution because the rule-parametrized rule (see explanation above) usually has to do with not all objects in the collection fitting the rule. (See BP568, which is about BP ideas that are always overridden by a simpler solution.) The example EX10108 "all five are 'all five are ___'" was added, foiling the alternative solution.

CROSSREFS

The right side of this Problem is a subset of BP999left.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP993 BP994 BP995 BP996 BP997  *  BP999 BP1000 BP1001 BP1002 BP1003

EXAMPLE

"Odd one out with respect to what property is the odd one out" would not fit left: even though this example does seem doubly-meta, it is not doubly-meta in the right way. There is no odd one out with respect to the property of having an odd one out.

Similarly, consider "gradual transition with respect to what the gradual transition is between", etc. Instead of having the form "X 'X __' ", this is more like "X [the __ appearing in 'X __']". Examples like these two could make for a different Bongard Problem.

KEYWORD

hard, less, unwordable, challenge, overriddensolution, infodense, contributepairs, funny, rules, miniworlds

CONCEPT self-reference (info | search)

WORLD

zoom in right

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP1042 "No panels vs. dots" or "dots vs. no panels" vs. other dots Bongard Problem.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1037 BP1038 BP1039 BP1040 BP1041  *  BP1043 BP1044 BP1045 BP1046 BP1047

KEYWORD

less, precise, allsorted, notso, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, example, assumesfamiliarity, structure, preciseworld, presentationinvariant

CONCEPT or (info | search)

WORLD

boxes_dots_bpimage_clear_set_of_numbers [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP1043 Dots Bongard Problem vs. nothing.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1038 BP1039 BP1040 BP1041 BP1042  *  BP1044 BP1045 BP1046 BP1047 BP1048

KEYWORD

less, precise, allsorted, notso, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, example, assumesfamiliarity, structure, preciseworld, presentationinvariant

WORLD

boxes_dots_bpimage_clear_set_of_numbers [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in right (nothing)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP1056 Blank image vs. nothing.
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COMMENTS

Two kinds of "nothing".

CROSSREFS

See also BP1219, "blank image vs. image of blank square".

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1051 BP1052 BP1053 BP1054 BP1055  *  BP1057 BP1058 BP1059 BP1060 BP1061

KEYWORD

less, left-finite, right-finite, left-full, right-full, left-null, finished, invalid, experimental, funny, finishedexamples

CONCEPT empty (info | search),
existence (info | search),
zero (info | search)

WORLD

blank_image [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (blank_image) | zoom in right (nothing)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP1129 An oval is sorted left; shapes are sorted left when they can be built out of others sorted left by A) joining side by side (at a point) or B) joining one on top of the other (joining one's entire bottom edge to the other's entire top edge).
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COMMENTS

This was an unintended solution for BP1130.


In category theory lingo, left examples are built by repeated horizontal composition and vertical composition. (Making horizontal lines as 0-ary vertical compositions is here forbidden.)

CROSSREFS

Anything fitting right in BP1130 fits right here.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1124 BP1125 BP1126 BP1127 BP1128  *  BP1130 BP1131 BP1132 BP1133 BP1134

KEYWORD

hard, less, convoluted, solved, inductivedefinition

CONCEPT or (info | search)

WORLD

[smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP1174 Images not currently being used as examples in any other Bongard Problem on the OEBP vs. images used in other Bongard Problems.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1169 BP1170 BP1171 BP1172 BP1173  *  BP1175 BP1176 BP1177 BP1178 BP1179

KEYWORD

less, oebp, time, invalid, experimental

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

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