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BP537 Meta Bongard Problems vs. other Bongard Problems.
BP200
BP501
BP503
BP504
BP506
BP507
BP508
BP509
BP510
BP511
BP512
BP513
BP514
BP515
BP516
BP517
BP518
BP519
BP520
BP521
BP522
BP526
BP534
BP535
BP537
BP539
BP541
BP542
BP544
BP546
BP547
BP549
BP550
BP552
BP553

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BP1
BP2
BP3
BP4
BP5
BP6
BP7
BP8
BP9
BP10
?
BP1080
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COMMENTS

Bongard Problems sorted left have the keyword "meta" on the OEBP.


Meta Bongard Problems are Bongard Problems that sort Bongard Problems. Sometimes abbreviated MBPs.


The first meta Bongard Problem was BP200.


Some meta BP pages sort images of Bongard Problems (keyword miniproblems), while other meta BP pages sort other BP pages (keyword links).

CROSSREFS

BPs that sort meta-BPs are labelled metameta.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP532 BP533 BP534 BP535 BP536  *  BP538 BP539 BP540 BP541 BP542

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, world, left-self, sideless, metameta, left-full, feedback

CONCEPT recursion (info | search)

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (linksbp)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP541 Bongard Problems vs. anything else.
BP1
BP2
BP3
BP4
BP541
BP1073

blllmam

cat

nongard

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COMMENTS

This refers to all Bongard Problem solution ideas. No need to be a particularly well-made or well-defined Bongard Problem.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP536 BP537 BP538 BP539 BP540  *  BP542 BP543 BP544 BP545 BP546

KEYWORD

notso, meta (see left/right), links, world, left-self, right-null, left-it, feedback

WORLD

everything [smaller | same]
zoom in left (bp)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP542 BP Pages on the OEBP vs. anything else.
BP1
BP2
BP3
BP542
BP1073
BP0

nolab

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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP537 BP538 BP539 BP540 BP541  *  BP543 BP544 BP545 BP546 BP547

KEYWORD

notso, meta (see left/right), links, oebp, world, left-self, right-null, left-it, feedback

WORLD

everything [smaller | same]
zoom in left (bppage)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP544 Everything vs. nothing.

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BP1
BP544
BP1073

dog

nothing

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COMMENTS

All ideas and things, with no limits.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP539 BP540 BP541 BP542 BP543  *  BP545 BP546 BP547 BP548 BP549

KEYWORD

notso, meta (see left/right), links, world, left-self, right-finite, right-full, left-null, left-it, feedback, experimental, funny

CONCEPT existence (info | search)

WORLD

everything [smaller | same]
zoom in left (everything) | zoom in right (nothing)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP547 Meta Meta Bongard Problems vs. other Bongard Problems.
BP517
BP519
BP537
BP539
BP547
BP561
BP566
BP577
BP774
BP775
BP777
BP778
BP779
BP780
BP781
BP782
BP783
BP784
BP785
BP786
BP794
BP888
BP895
BP1007
BP1073
BP1074
BP1076
BP1113
BP1126
BP1242
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "metameta" on the OEBP.


These are meta Bongard Problems with at least two layers of nesting.

CROSSREFS

See BP952 for the version that sorts pictures of Bongard Problems (miniproblems) instead of links.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP542 BP543 BP544 BP545 BP546  *  BP548 BP549 BP550 BP551 BP552

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-self, metameta, metametameta, left-it, feedback

CONCEPT recursion_number (info | search),
recursion (info | search)

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (metametabp)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP549 Bongard Problems with simple solutions vs. Bongard Problems with convoluted solutions.
BP159
BP213
BP227
BP228
BP257
BP262
BP290
BP825
BP849
BP920
BP973
BP975
BP981
BP990
BP1040
BP1129
BP1245
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COMMENTS

Right examples have the keyword "convoluted" on the OEBP.


Images of Bongard Problems with convoluted solutions often admit many alternative solutions of similar complexity. In order for one particular convoluted solution to be the simplest solution, it is often necessary to include a large number of examples. A similar issue appears in infodense Bongard Problems.


When a Bongard Problem is too convoluted, a person might find the intended answer but discount it because it seems too convoluted. A solution to a Bongard Problem is unambiguous when it is the least convoluted option by a large margin.

CROSSREFS

Related to arbitrary.

See BP374 for simple vs. complicated drawings.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP544 BP545 BP546 BP547 BP548  *  BP550 BP551 BP552 BP553 BP554

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP550 Experimental Bongard Problems vs. traditional-style Bongard Problems.
BP195
BP200
BP300
BP359
BP538
BP544
BP545
BP548
BP555
BP570
BP793
BP795
BP797
BP801
BP812
BP813
BP844
BP854
BP859
BP862
BP868
BP902
BP911
BP915
BP920
BP939
BP941
BP942
BP953
BP955
BP957
BP959
BP1008
BP1056
BP1073

. . .

BP1
BP2
BP3
BP4
BP5
BP6
BP7
BP8
BP9
BP10
BP11
BP12
BP13
BP14
BP15
BP16
BP17
BP18
BP19
BP20
BP21
BP22
BP23
BP24
BP25
BP26
BP27
BP28
BP29
BP30
BP31
BP32
BP33
BP34
BP35

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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "experimental" on the OEBP.

Right examples have the keyword "traditional" on the OEBP.


Experimental BPs push the boundaries of what makes Bongard Problems Bongard Problems.


Traditional BPs show some simple property of black and white pictures. The OEBP is a place with many wild and absurd Bongard Problems, so it is useful to have an easy way to just find the regular old Bongard Problems.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP545 BP546 BP547 BP548 BP549  *  BP551 BP552 BP553 BP554 BP555

KEYWORD

subjective, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-it

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP561 Meta Bongard Problems fitting in their own world vs. other meta Bongard Problems.
BP561
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COMMENTS

This prompts thinking about left-self and right-self keywords.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP556 BP557 BP558 BP559 BP560  *  BP562 BP563 BP564 BP565 BP566

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, left-self, sideless, metameta

WORLD

linksbp [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (bp_in_own_world)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP565 Bongard Problems that are hard for humans to solve but easier for computers to solve vs. Bongard Problems that are hard for computers to solve but easier for humans to solve.
BP112
BP558
BP941
BP1008
BP1055
BP1286
BP100
BP170
BP190
BP193
BP197
BP199
BP235
BP237
BP252
BP331
BP349
BP373
BP382
BP524
BP551
BP565
BP812
BP839
BP844
BP862
BP869
BP882
BP930
BP939
BP1002
BP1004
BP1092
BP1110
BP1260
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "antihuman" on the OEBP.

Right examples have the keyword "anticomputer" on the OEBP.


Easy abstract Bongard Problems are typically anticomputer Bongard Problems.

CROSSREFS

See keyword help for Bongard Problems that can be made easier for humans to solve by the selection of helpful examples.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP560 BP561 BP562 BP563 BP564  *  BP566 BP567 BP568 BP569 BP570

KEYWORD

spectrum, anticomputer, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, right-self, viceversa

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP566 Meta Bongard Problems of the form "[transformation] applied to some examples switch their sorting vs. sorting is invariant under [transformation]" vs. other meta Bongard Problems.
BP510
BP535
BP539
BP552
BP553
BP554
BP556
BP964
BP974
BP1009
BP1112
BP1140
BP1195
?
BP575
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "invariance" on the OEBP.


Bongard Problems labelled "invariance" are usually (but not always) about transformations that can be undone by other transformations of the same class. (The technical term for this kind of transformation is an "isomorphism".)


When the transformations used in a "invariance" Bongard Problem vary continuously, there could usually be made a corresponding stability Bongard Problem. Stability Bongard Problems are like "invariance" Bongard Problems but for arbitrarily small applications of [transformation] affecting examples' sorting.


Potentially, stability Bongard Problems could be considered "invariance" Bongard Problems. On one hand, they are different, since checking whether arbitrarily small transformations switch an example's sorting is different from checking whether a particular transformation switches an example's sorting; the former is infinitely many conditions. On the other hand, there is actually only finitely much detail in any of the examples, and in practice a stability Bongard Problem generally just amounts to "a small application of [transformation] switches an example's sorting vs. not".

(The keyword gap is another example of a Bongard Problem currently labelled with "invariance" that arguably does not technically fit.)


Also, dependence Bongard Problems could be considered "invariance" Bongard Problems, where the relevant kind of transformation is swapping the example out for any other example that shares the relevant property.

CROSSREFS

"Invariance" Bongard Problems are notso Bongard Problems.

"Invariance" Bongard Problems are often keywords (keyword keyword) on the OEBP.


See keyword problemkiller, which is about transformations making all sorted examples unsortable.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP561 BP562 BP563 BP564 BP565  *  BP567 BP568 BP569 BP570 BP571

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, metameta

WORLD

linksbp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

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