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BP860 Finitely many copies of the shape can be arranged such that they are locked together vs. not so.
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CROSSREFS

This is a generalisation of BP861.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP855 BP856 BP857 BP858 BP859  *  BP861 BP862 BP863 BP864 BP865

KEYWORD

hard, nice, stub, precise, stretch, unstable, hardsort, challenge, creativeexamples, perfect, pixelperfect

CONCEPT tiling (info | search)

WORLD

fill_shape [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP861 Shape can be combined with a copy of itself such that they are locked together vs. not so.
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CROSSREFS

See BP860 for the more general version of this solution.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP856 BP857 BP858 BP859 BP860  *  BP862 BP863 BP864 BP865 BP866

KEYWORD

nice, precise, unstable, perfect, pixelperfect

CONCEPT tiling (info | search)

WORLD

fill_shape [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP867 Bongard Problem with solution that can be naturally expressed as "___ vs. not so" vs. not so.
BP32
BP77
BP82
BP127
BP243
BP257
BP274
BP288
BP323
BP344
BP376
BP381
BP385
BP390
BP506
BP507
BP515
BP516
BP538
BP541
BP542
BP544
BP545
BP553
BP559
BP569
BP576
BP812
BP816
BP818
BP823
BP825
BP852
BP866
BP867

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BP6

Qat

blimp

notso

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COMMENTS

Left-sorted BPs have the keyword "notso" on the OEBP.


This meta Bongard Problem is about Bongard Problems featuring two rules that are conceptual opposites.


Sometimes both sides could be seen as the "not" side: consider, for example, two definitions of the same Bongard Problem, "shape has hole vs. does not" and "shape is not filled vs. is". It is possible (albeit perhaps unnatural) to phrase the solution either way when the left and right sides partition all possible relevant examples cleanly into two groups (see the allsorted keyword).


When one property is "positive-seeming" and its opposite is "negative-seeming", it usually means the positive property would be recognized without counter-examples (e.g. a collection of triangles will be seen as such), while the negative property wouldn't be recognized without counter-examples (e.g. a collection of "non-triangle shapes" will just be interpreted as "shapes" unless triangles are shown opposite them).


BP513 (keyword left-narrow) is about Bongard Problems whose left side can be recognized without the right side. When a Bongard Problem is left-narrow and not "right-narrow that usually makes the property on the left seem positive and the property on the right seem negative.


The OEBP by convention has preferred the "positive-seeming" property (when there is one) to be on the left side.


All in all, the keyword "notso" should mean:

1) If the Bongard Problem is "narrow" on at least one side, then it is left-narrow.

2) The right side is the conceptual negation of the left side.


If a Bongard Problem's solution is "[Property A] vs. not so", the "not so" side is everything without [Property A] within some suitable context. A Bongard Problem "triangles vs. not so" might only include simple shapes as non-triangles; it need not include images of boats as non-triangles. It is not necessary for all the kitchen sink to be thrown on the "not so" side (although it is here).

CROSSREFS

See BP1001 for a version sorting pictures of Bongard Problems (miniproblems) instead of links to pages on the OEBP. (This version is a little different. In BP1001, the kitchen sink of all other possible images is always included on the right "not so" side, rather than a context-dependent conceptual negation.)


Contrast keyword viceversa.


"[Property A] vs. not so" Bongard Problems are often allsorted, meaning they sort all relevant examples--but not always, because sometimes there exist ambiguous border cases, unclear whether they fit [Property A] or not.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP862 BP863 BP864 BP865 BP866  *  BP868 BP869 BP870 BP871 BP872

KEYWORD

notso, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-self, funny

WORLD

everything [smaller | same]
zoom in left

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP902 This Bongard Problem vs. anything else.
BP902
BP1

becious

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COMMENTS

Although this Bongard Problem is self-referential, it's only because of the specific phrasing of the solution. "BP902 vs. anything else" would also work. The number 902 could have been chosen coincidentally.

CROSSREFS

See BP953, BP959.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP897 BP898 BP899 BP900 BP901  *  BP903 BP904 BP905 BP906 BP907

KEYWORD

notso, meta (see left/right), links, left-self, left-narrow, left-finite, left-full, right-null, right-it, invalid, experimental, funny

CONCEPT self-reference (info | search),
specificity (info | search)

WORLD

everything [smaller | same]
zoom in left (bp902)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP990 The center of mass can "see" (in straight lines) all points within the shape vs. the center of mass is not located in a region where it can see (in straight lines) all points.
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COMMENTS

Another way of thinking about the solution is considering whether a light source placed at the center of mass of a given example would illuminate the whole shape.

CROSSREFS

Every left for this Problem would be will be a left example for both BP367 and BP368.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP985 BP986 BP987 BP988 BP989  *  BP991 BP992 BP993 BP994 BP995

KEYWORD

convoluted, perfect

CONCEPT inside (info | search),
center_of_mass (info | search),
imagined_point (info | search),
imagined_line_or_curve (info | search),
imagined_entity (info | search)

WORLD

fill_shape_seeing_point_center_of_mass_inside [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP991 Can be arranged with multiple copies of itself to form some convex shape vs. not so.
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CROSSREFS

This is a generalization of BP820.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP986 BP987 BP988 BP989 BP990  *  BP992 BP993 BP994 BP995 BP996

KEYWORD

precise, allsorted, perfect

CONCEPT tiling (info | search)

WORLD

fill_shape [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP1212 Shape tiles a square vs. not
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1207 BP1208 BP1209 BP1210 BP1211  *  BP1213 BP1214 BP1215 BP1216 BP1217

KEYWORD

precise

WORLD

fill_shape [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Jago Collins

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