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BP957 Images of Bongard Problems that sort an image of their left side on their left and an image of their right side on their right vs. images of Bongard Problems that sort an image of their left side on their right and an image of their right side on their left.
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Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP952 BP953 BP954 BP955 BP956  *  BP958 BP959 BP960 BP961 BP962

KEYWORD

nice, abstract, solved, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, creativeexamples, assumesfamiliarity, structure, experimental

CONCEPT self-reference (info | search)

WORLD

oblong_panels_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_balanced [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (oblong_panels_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_stay) | zoom in right (oblong_panels_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_swap)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP955 Images of Bongard Problems that sort an image of their left side on their left and an image of their right side on their left vs. images of Bongard Problems that sort an image of their left side on their right and an image of their right side on their right.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP950 BP951 BP952 BP953 BP954  *  BP956 BP957 BP958 BP959 BP960

KEYWORD

abstract, dual, handed, leftright, solved, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, creativeexamples, assumesfamiliarity, structure, experimental

CONCEPT self-reference (info | search)

WORLD

oblong_boxes_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_skewed [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (oblong_boxes_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_left) | zoom in right (oblong_boxes_bpimage_sorts_both_sides_right)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP954 Solution could appear in a Bongard Problem that has itself as a panel vs. not so.
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COMMENTS

Loosely speaking, examples on the left are "Bongard Problems that can be self-similar". However, Bongard Problems with images of themselves deeply nested in boxes or rotated/flipped are not considered "self-similar"; the Bongard Problem must use itself, as-is (allowing downward scaling and ignoring pixelation), as a panel.


All examples here are in the conventional format, i.e. white background, black vertical dividing line, and examples in boxes on either side. (A more general version of this Bongard Problem might allow many formats of Bongard Problems, sorting an image left if a self-similar version is possible having the same solution and format. This more general version would no longer be tagged presentationinvariant, since sorting would not only depend on solution, but also format.)


It would hint at the solution (keyword help) to only include images of Bongard Problems that, as it stands, are already clearly categorized on one side by themselves. (That is, images of Bongard Problems that belong on one of the two sides of BP793.) It is tricky to come up with images that are categorized by themselves as it stands but that could NOT be recursively included within themselves. EX7967, EX7999, EX7995, and EX6574 are some examples.

CROSSREFS

See BP987 which narrows down the left-hand side of this BP further based on whether or not the BP could contain itself as a panel on both sides.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP949 BP950 BP951 BP952 BP953  *  BP955 BP956 BP957 BP958 BP959

KEYWORD

hard, stub, abstract, challenge, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, infinitedetail, presentationinvariant, visualimagination

CONCEPT fractal (info | search),
recursion (info | search),
self-reference (info | search)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP953 Image of this Bongard Problem vs. empty image.
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COMMENTS

"Image of Bongard Problem with solution X vs. empty image" where X is the phrase in quotes.

CROSSREFS

See BP959, BP902.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP948 BP949 BP950 BP951 BP952  *  BP954 BP955 BP956 BP957 BP958

KEYWORD

nice, precise, meta (see left/right), miniproblems, overriddensolution, right-full, right-null, perfect, infinitedetail, experimental, funny

CONCEPT fractal (info | search),
recursion (info | search),
self-reference (info | search)

WORLD

zoom in left (bp953_image) | zoom in right (blank_image)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP952 Images of Bongard Problems about images of Bongard Problems about images of Bongard Problems vs. images of Bongard Problems not including images of Bongard Problems including images of Bongard Problems.
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CROSSREFS

See BP547 for the version with links to pages on the OEBP instead of images of Bongard Problems (miniproblems).

Any left example in this BP will be a left example for BP1084.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP947 BP948 BP949 BP950 BP951  *  BP953 BP954 BP955 BP956 BP957

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), miniproblems, funny, presentationinvariant

CONCEPT recursion (info | search)

WORLD

[smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP951 Process described leaves some inputs invariant vs. no output will resemble its input.
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COMMENTS

There are many ambiguities here. The solver is expected to determine what things are "allowed" to be inputs for each process. To avoid confusion examples should not be sorted differently if you consider inputting nothing.



In each example there is at least some overlap between the set of possible inputs and the set of possible outputs for each process. If we did not apply this constraint, an easy example to be sorted right would be a process that turns blue shapes red.



A harder-to-read but more clearly defined version of this Problem could include within each example a mini Bongard Problem sorting left all allowed inputs for the process.

REFERENCE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_point_(mathematics)

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP946 BP947 BP948 BP949 BP950  *  BP952 BP953 BP954 BP955 BP956

KEYWORD

structure, rules, miniworlds

CONCEPT function (info | search)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP949 Two unique distances between points vs. three unique distances between points.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP944 BP945 BP946 BP947 BP948  *  BP950 BP951 BP952 BP953 BP954

KEYWORD

nice, precise, allsorted, stretch, perfect, traditional, preciseworld

CONCEPT two (info | search),
three (info | search)

WORLD

3_or_4_points [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP948 Image of Bongard Problem such that pixel-inverting examples flips the solution vs. image of Bongard Problem such that pixel-inverting examples leaves the solution invariant.
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CROSSREFS

See BP556 (keyword blackwhite) for the version with links to pages on the OEBP instead of images of Bongard Problems.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP943 BP944 BP945 BP946 BP947  *  BP949 BP950 BP951 BP952 BP953

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), miniproblems, presentationinvariant

CONCEPT black_white_inversion (info | search)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP947 BPs where users are advised to only upload images in which the pixelation is not misleading vs. other "perfect" Bongard Problems that use pixelated images to closely approximate the actual intended shapes.
BP1
BP31
BP210
BP211
BP217
BP279
BP321
BP324
BP325
BP335
BP341
BP367
BP386
BP523
BP859
BP860
BP861
BP892
BP920
BP934
BP935
BP966
BP1008
BP1088
BP1089
BP1090
BP1093
BP1104
BP1131
BP1156
BP1161
BP1168
BP1183
BP344
BP559
BP564
BP912
BP937
BP949
BP965
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "pixelperfect" on the OEBP.


All examples here are perfect Bongard Problems. That is, subtle imperfections in images are meant to be considered.


When a Problem is tagged with "pixelperfect", users are reminded to make sure they do not upload images such that taking the pixelation into account would affect the sorting of that example. That is, the zoomed-in jagged blocky version of the picture should still fit the solution.


For example, in the examples of BP335, which is about tessellation, the pixels interlock properly.

CROSSREFS

Stable Bongard Problems are generally pixelperfect.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP942 BP943 BP944 BP945 BP946  *  BP948 BP949 BP950 BP951 BP952

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, instruction

WORLD

perfect_bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP946 Can be constructed using 2 identical copies of an image (full overlapping not allowed) vs. not so.
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COMMENTS

"Full overlapping not allowed" means you cannot overlay an image onto itself without moving it; if this were allowed all images would be sorted on the left. The copies can be moved around (translated) in 2D but can not be flipped or rotated.


There are examples on the right drawn with thick lines, and these could be created by copying an image with slightly thinner lines and moving it over a tiny amount. If you fix this issue by saying "the copy has to be moved over more than a tiny amount" then the Bongard Problem is perfect but not precise, but if you fix this issue by saying "interpret the figures as made up of (infinitesimally) thin lines" then it's precise but not perfect. - Aaron David Fairbanks, Jun 17 2023

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP941 BP942 BP943 BP944 BP945  *  BP947 BP948 BP949 BP950 BP951

KEYWORD

nice, notso, creativeexamples

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

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