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BP841 Any relationship that exists between one object and another exists between each object and some other versus not so.
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COMMENTS

For example, in a picture on the left of this Bongard Problem, if object A turned 90 degrees clockwise is object B, then there is also an object C which is B turned 90 degrees clockwise.


Positioning is irrelevant.


In all images, any pair of objects ought to be related in a unique (most intuitive) way. Furthermore, one object is not allowed to be related to two distinct objects by the same relationship. Even for images on the right, each analogy of objects A:B::C:_ should have one clear answer, although that object is perhaps missing.


Relationships described by "[undoable action] applied to ___ is ___" will always form what in mathematics is called a "group". These relationships can be chained one after another to form a total compound relationship (turn 90 degrees clockwise + turn 90 degrees clockwise = turn 180 degrees), and each relationship has an "inverse" relationship that undoes it and vice versa (turn 90 degrees clockwise + turn 90 degrees counterclockwise = do nothing).

(Moreover actions are by nature associative.)


Sometimes the relationships in a picture wouldn't be consistently read the same way by everybody. For example, if there is a picture showing an L shape next to all vertical and horizontal reflections and 90 degree rotations of it, somebody might read

⅃ L

to be the same relationship as

┗━

┏━.

Meanwhile, someone else might think ⅃ L should be called the same relationship as ┗━ ━┛. There is a conflict between "flipping over the vertical line (within the letter 'L')" and "flipping over a vertical line (in the background space)."


Likewise in any illustration of related objects (as in this Bongard Problem) people might interpret [the transformation that sends A to B] as analogous to [the transformation that sends [transformation x applied to A] to [transformation x applied to B] ].


A "commutative" (also called "abelian") group is a group in which there is no difference between the two in each case. Displayed using pictures like the ones in this Bongard Problem, only commutative groups of relationships can be expected to be read consistently by people.

REFERENCE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_(mathematics)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abelian_group

CROSSREFS

See BP842 and BP840 for versions about particular groups.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP836 BP837 BP838 BP839 BP840  *  BP842 BP843 BP844 BP845 BP846

KEYWORD

nice, rules, miniworlds

WORLD

zoom in left | zoom in right

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP843 Lower bound is object vs. lower bound is nothing.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP838 BP839 BP840 BP841 BP842  *  BP844 BP845 BP846 BP847 BP848

KEYWORD

creativeexamples, structure, rules

CONCEPT empty (info | search)

WORLD

constant_change_seq_increase_right_lower_bound [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (constant_change_seq_increase_right_low_bound_obj)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP845 "Noisy" properties changing independent of the consistently increasing quantity vs. not so.
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COMMENTS

"Noisy" sequences of change vs. "minimalist" sequences of change.

CROSSREFS

See BP511 for noise in BPs.

See BP827 for noise in images of BPs.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP840 BP841 BP842 BP843 BP844  *  BP846 BP847 BP848 BP849 BP850

KEYWORD

creativeexamples, structure, contributepairs, rules

WORLD

quantity_change_seq_increase_right_noise_allowed [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in right (quantity_change_seq_increase_right)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP846 A quantity increases by fixed constant amount each step vs. not so.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP841 BP842 BP843 BP844 BP845  *  BP847 BP848 BP849 BP850 BP851

KEYWORD

creativeexamples, structure, contributepairs, rules

WORLD

quantity_change_seq_increase_right [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in right (constant_change_seq_increase_right)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP848 Lower bound object shown vs. not so.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP843 BP844 BP845 BP846 BP847  *  BP849 BP850 BP851 BP852 BP853

KEYWORD

creativeexamples, structure, contributepairs, rules

WORLD

constant_change_seq_increase_right_low_bound_obj [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP849 Loop is time-symmetrical (loop is like ABCBABCBA... instead of like ABCABCABC...) up to rotation of object vs. not so (neither up to rotation nor reflection).
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP844 BP845 BP846 BP847 BP848  *  BP850 BP851 BP852 BP853 BP854

KEYWORD

hard, convoluted, solved, rules

WORLD

constant_change_seq_loop_right [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP852 Object shown below is the "limit" of the sequence above (end result after "infinite time") versus not so.
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COMMENTS

Note this is not actually the limit of each infinitesimal pixel assembled into an image. For example in a sequence of halvings the limit value is never reached, so the bottom pixel would never change color and thus its limit would not would not either.


Sequences progress from left to right (and there is not usually a way to intuitively extend the sequence in the other direction).

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP847 BP848 BP849 BP850 BP851  *  BP853 BP854 BP855 BP856 BP857

KEYWORD

notso, creativeexamples, perfect, infinitedetail, assumesfamiliarity, structure, contributepairs, rules

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP855 Object below ambiguously sorted (not clearly left or right) by Bongard Problem image above vs. object below clearly sorted by Bongard Problem image above.
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COMMENTS

Represented are Bongard Problems and an extra object to sort, a.k.a. the Bongard's Dozen format.

A variety of kinds of ambiguities showcased as left examples.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP850 BP851 BP852 BP853 BP854  *  BP856 BP857 BP858 BP859 BP860

KEYWORD

nice, creativeexamples, structure, rules

WORLD

bdimage_shapes_extra_below [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in right (bdimage_shapes_extra_below_clear_sort)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP870 Increasing quantity has upper bound (will get "stopped" by something) vs. not so.
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COMMENTS

Related to BP380.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP865 BP866 BP867 BP868 BP869  *  BP871 BP872 BP873 BP874 BP875

KEYWORD

creativeexamples, structure, rules

WORLD

constant_change_seq_increase_right [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP893 As one quantity increases an equally obvious opposite quantity decreases vs. there is only one obvious quantity, which increases as the sequence progresses right.
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COMMENTS

Another way of phrasing the solution: "Neither direction would more naturally be called increase in quantity vs. rightward progression would be called an increase."


Most right examples shown are unboundedly increasing, since finite sequences showing a quantity increasing usually also suggest "distance to end of sequence" as a decreasing opposite quantity. Even so, there are some finite sequences with one direction more intuitively increase-like than the other.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP888 BP889 BP890 BP891 BP892  *  BP894 BP895 BP896 BP897 BP898

KEYWORD

creativeexamples, structure, rules

WORLD

constant_change_seq_increase_right [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

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