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BP503 "Nice" Bongard Problems vs. Bongard Problems the OEBP does not need more like.
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "nice" on the OEBP.

Right-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "less." They are not necessarily "bad," but we do not want more like them.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP498 BP499 BP500 BP501 BP502  *  BP504 BP505 BP506 BP507 BP508

KEYWORD

subjective, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, oebp, right-finite, left-it, feedback, time

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP508 Bongard Problems with precise definitions vs. Bongard Problems with vague definitions.
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BP67
BP72
BP103
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BP292
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COMMENTS

Bongard Problems sorted left have the keyword "precise" on the OEBP.

Bongard Problems sorted right have the keyword "fuzzy" on the OEBP.


In an precise Bongard Problem, any relevant example is either clearly sorted left, clearly sorted right, or clearly not sorted.

(All relevant examples clearly sorted either left or right is the keyword allsorted.)


How can it be decided whether or not a rule is precise? How can it be decided whether or not a rule classifies all "examples that are relevant"? There needs to be another rule to determine which examples the original rule intends to sort. Bongard Problems by design communicate ideas without fixing that context ahead of time. The label "precise" can only mean a Bongard Problem's rule seems precise to people who see it. (This "precise vs. fuzzy" Bongard Problem is fuzzy.)


In an precise "less than ___ vs. greater than ___" Bongard Problem (keyword spectrum), the division between the sides is usually an apparent threshold. For example, there is an intuitive threshold between acute and obtuse angles (see e.g. BP292).


As a rule of thumb, do not consider imperfections of hand drawn images (keyword ignoreimperfections) when deciding whether a Bongard Problem is precise or fuzzy. Just because one can draw a square badly does not mean "triangle vs. quadrilateral" (BP6) should be labelled fuzzy; similar vagueness arises in all hand-drawn Bongard Problems. (For Bongard Problems in which fine subtleties of drawings, including small imperfections, are meant to be considered, use the keyword perfect.)


Sometimes the way a Bongard Problem would sort certain examples is an unsolved problem in mathematics. (See e.g. BP820.) There is a precise criterion that has been used to verify each sorted example fits where it fits (some kind of mathematical proof); however, where some examples fit is still unknown. Whether or not such a Bongard Problem should be labelled "precise" might be debated.

(Technical note: some properties are known to be undecidable, and sometimes the decidability itself is unknown. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_problem .)

(See the keyword proofsrequired.)

One way to resolve this ambiguity is to define "precise" as meaning that once people decide where an example belongs for a reason, they will all agree about it.


Sometimes the class of all examples in a Bongard Problem is imprecise, but, despite that, the rule sorting those examples is precise. Say, for some potential new example, it is unclear whether it should be included in the Bongard Problem at all, but, if it were included, it would be clear where it should be sorted (or that it should be left unsorted). A Bongard Problem like this can still be tagged "precise".

(If all examples are clearly sorted except for some example for which it is unclear whether it belongs to the class of relevant examples, the situation becomes ambiguous.)

On the other hand, sometimes the class of all examples is very clear, with an obvious boundary. (Keyword preciseworld.)


There is a subtle distinction to draw between Bongard Problems that are precise to the people making them and Bongard Problems that are precise to the people solving them. A Bongard Problem (particularly a non-allsorted one) might be labeled "precise" on the OEBP because the description and the listed ambiguous examples explicitly forbid sorting certain border cases; however, someone looking at the Bongard Problem without access to the OEBP page containing the definition would not be aware of this. It may or may not be obvious that certain examples were intentionally left out of the Bongard Problem. A larger collection of examples may make it more clear that a particularly blatant potential border case was left out intentionally.

CROSSREFS

See BP876 for the version with pictures of Bongard Problems instead of links to pages on the OEBP.

See both and neither for specific ways an example can be classified as unsorted in an "precise" Bongard Problem.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP503 BP504 BP505 BP506 BP507  *  BP509 BP510 BP511 BP512 BP513

KEYWORD

fuzzy, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, right-self, sideless

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP509 Bongard Problems that sort all relevant examples vs. Bongard Problems that would leave some unsorted.
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BP103
BP312
BP321
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BP329
BP334
BP376
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BP820
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BP292
BP508
BP509
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "allsorted" on the OEBP.


A Bongard Problem is labelled "allsorted" when the type of thing it sorts is partitioned unambiguously and without exception into two groups.


Similarly to using the precise and fuzzy keywords, calling a Bongard Problem "allsorted" is a subjective/intuitive judgment. The collection of all relevant potential examples is not clearly delineated anywhere.

(Sometimes it's ambiguous whether to consider certain examples that are ambiguously sorted relevant.)


The solution to an "allsorted" Bongard Problem can usually be re-phrased as "___ vs. not so" (see the keyword notso).

But not every "___ vs. not so" Bongard Problem should be labelled "allsorted"; there could be ambiguous border cases in a "___ vs. not so" Bongard Problem.


Bongard Problems in which the two sides are so different that there is no middle ground between them (keyword gap) are sometimes still labelled "allsorted", since the intuitive pool of all relevant examples just amounts to the two unrelated sides. But some "gap" Bongard Problems are not like that; for example sometimes there are more related classes of examples besides the two shown.


Sometimes the class of all examples in a Bongard Problem is imprecise, but, despite that, the rule sorting those examples is precise. Say, for some potential new example, it is unclear whether it should be included in the Bongard Problem at all, but, if it were included, it would be clear where it should be sorted. A Bongard Problem like this can still be tagged "allsorted".

On the other hand, sometimes the class of all examples is very clear, with an obvious boundary. (Keyword preciseworld.)



In deciding where to sort an example, we think about it until we come to a conclusion; an example isn't here considered ambiguous just because someone might have a hard time with it (keyword hardsort).

However, sometimes the way a Bongard Problem would sort certain examples is an unsolved problem in mathematics, and it may be unknown whether there is even a solution. Whether or not such a Bongard Problem should be labelled "allsorted" might be debated.

(See the keyword proofsrequired.)

One way to resolve this ambiguity is to redefine "allsorted" as meaning that once people decide where an example belongs, it will be on one of the two sides, and they will all agree about it.



There is a distinction to be made between a non-"allsorted" Bongard Problem that could be made "allsorted" by making (finitely many) more examples sorted (thereby modifying or clarifying the solution of the Bongard Problem) and one such that this is not possible while maintaining a comparably simple solution. The former kind would often be labelled precise, in particular when these border cases have been explicitly forbidden from being sorted in the Bongard Problem's definition.

For instance, discrete Bongard Problems that are not allsorted usually fall into the former category.

CROSSREFS

See BP875 for the version with pictures of Bongard Problems instead of links to pages on the OEBP.

"Allsorted" implies precise.

"Allsorted" and both are mutually exclusive.

"Allsorted" and neither are mutually exclusive.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP504 BP505 BP506 BP507 BP508  *  BP510 BP511 BP512 BP513 BP514

KEYWORD

fuzzy, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, right-self, sideless, right-it, feedback

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP535 Visual Bongard Problems such that flipping over the vertical axis (left/right) can switch an example's side vs. visual Bongard Problems whose examples' sorting doesn't change under such a transformation.
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "leftright" on the OEBP.

CROSSREFS

See updown.

All "leftright" Bongard Problems are handed.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP530 BP531 BP532 BP533 BP534  *  BP536 BP537 BP538 BP539 BP540

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, sideless, invariance

WORLD

handed_visualbp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP550 Experimental Bongard Problems vs. traditional-style Bongard Problems.
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "experimental" on the OEBP.

Right examples have the keyword "traditional" on the OEBP.


Experimental BPs push the boundaries of what makes Bongard Problems Bongard Problems.


Traditional BPs show some simple property of black and white pictures. The OEBP is a place with many wild and absurd Bongard Problems, so it is useful to have an easy way to just find the regular old Bongard Problems.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP545 BP546 BP547 BP548 BP549  *  BP551 BP552 BP553 BP554 BP555

KEYWORD

subjective, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-it

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP552 Orientation-dependent Bongard Problems vs. orientation-independent visual Bongard Problems.
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "handed" on the OEBP.


If mirroring any example along the any axis can change its sorting the BP is "handed."


Note that BPs about comparing orientation between multiple things in one example fit on the right side.

CROSSREFS

See BP871 for the version with pictures of Bongard Problems (miniproblems) instead of links to pages on the OEBP.


The keyword leftright is specifically about flipping over the vertical axis, while the keyword updown is specifically about flipping over the horizontal axis.


Bongard Problems tagged rotate are usually "handed", since any rotation can be created by two reflections. Not necessarily, however, since the reflected step in between might not be sorted on either side by the Bongard Problem.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP547 BP548 BP549 BP550 BP551  *  BP553 BP554 BP555 BP556 BP557

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, invariance, wellfounded

WORLD

visualbp [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in left (handed_visualbp)

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP643 Bongard Problem with solution relating to concept: identical objects (within the example) vs. Bongard Problem unrelated to this concept.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP638 BP639 BP640 BP641 BP642  *  BP644 BP645 BP646 BP647 BP648

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, metaconcept

CONCEPT This MBP is about BPs that feature concept: "identical"

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Harry E. Foundalis

BP697 Bongard Problem with solution relating to concept: sequence (arithmetic) vs. Bongard Problem unrelated to this concept.
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BP986
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP692 BP693 BP694 BP695 BP696  *  BP698 BP699 BP700 BP701 BP702

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, metaconcept

CONCEPT This MBP is about BPs that feature concept: "sequence"

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Harry E. Foundalis

BP750 Bongard Problem with solution relating to concept: sameness (equality) of shape vs. Bongard Problem unrelated to this concept.
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP745 BP746 BP747 BP748 BP749  *  BP751 BP752 BP753 BP754 BP755

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, metaconcept

CONCEPT This MBP is about BPs that feature concept: "same_shape"

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Harry E. Foundalis

BP752 Bongard Problem with solution relating to concept: sameness (equality) vs. Bongard Problem unrelated to this concept.
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BP103
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BP324
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CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP747 BP748 BP749 BP750 BP751  *  BP753 BP754 BP755 BP756 BP757

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, metaconcept, primitive

CONCEPT This MBP is about BPs that feature concept: "same"

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Harry E. Foundalis

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