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| BP517 |
| Meta Bongard Problems that sort themselves left vs. meta Bongard Problems that sort themselves right. |
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| BP537 |
| Meta Bongard Problems vs. other Bongard Problems. |
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| BP550 |
| Experimental Bongard Problems vs. traditional-style Bongard Problems. |
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Left examples have the keyword "experimental" on the OEBP.
Right examples have the keyword "traditional" on the OEBP.
Experimental BPs push the boundaries of what makes Bongard Problems Bongard Problems.
Traditional BPs show some simple property of black and white pictures. The OEBP is a place with many wild and absurd Bongard Problems, so it is useful to have an easy way to just find the regular old Bongard Problems. |
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Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP545 BP546 BP547 BP548 BP549 * BP551 BP552 BP553 BP554 BP555
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KEYWORD
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subjective, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, left-it
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WORLD
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bp [smaller | same | bigger]
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Aaron David Fairbanks
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| BP563 |
| Bongard Problems such that there is a way of making an infinite list of all relevant possible left-sorted examples vs. Bongard Problems where there is no such way of listing all left-sorted examples. |
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Left-sorted Problems have the keyword "left-listable" on the OEBP.
All the possible left examples for the BPs on the left side of this problem could be listed in one infinite sequence. Right examples here are Problems for which no such sequence can exist.
This depends on deciding what images should be considered "the same thing", which is subjective and context-dependent.
All examples in this Bongard Problem have an infinite left side (they do not have the keyword left-finite).
The mathematical term for a set that can be organized into an infinite list is a "countably infinite" set, as opposed to an "uncountably infinite" set.
Another related idea is a "recursively enumerable" a.k.a. "semi-decidable" set, which is a set that a computer program could list the members of.
The keyword "left-listable" is meant to be for the more general idea of a countable set, which does not have to do with computer algorithms.
Note that this is not just BP940 (right-listable) flipped.
It seems in practice, Bongard Problems that are left-listable are usually also right-listable because the whole class of relevant examples is listable. A keyword for just plain "listable" may be more useful. Or instead keywords for left- versus right- semidecidability, in the sense of computing. - Aaron David Fairbanks, Jan 10 2023 |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countable_set |
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CROSSREFS
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See left-finite, which distinguishes between a finite left side and infinite left side.
"Left-listable" BPs are typically precise.
Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP558 BP559 BP560 BP561 BP562 * BP564 BP565 BP566 BP567 BP568
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KEYWORD
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math, meta (see left/right), links, keyword
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WORLD
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bp_infinite_left_examples [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in right (left_uncountable_bp)
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AUTHOR
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Leo Crabbe
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| BP631 |
| Bongard Problem with solution relating to concept: even / odd vs. Bongard Problem unrelated to this concept. |
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| BP895 |
| Meta Bongard Problems that sort Bongard Problems based on other information than just their solutions (e.g. what format the Bongard Problem is, or what specific examples are shown in it) vs. Meta Bongard Problems that sort Bongard Problems purely based on solution. |
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Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "presentationmatters" on the OEBP.
Right-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "presentationinvariant" on the OEBP.
Meta Bongard problems that sort Bongard Problems purely based on their solutions usually have two versions in the database: one that sorts images of Bongard Problems and one that sorts links to pages on the OEBP. If both versions exist, users should make them cross-reference one another. (Meta Bongard Problems that sort images of Bongard Problems have the keyword miniproblems, whereas meta Bongard Problems that sort links to OEBP pages have the keyword links.)
For meta-pages on the OEBP that sort other pages on the OEBP (keyword links), "presentationmatters" means factoring in content like the BP number, the currently uploaded examples, the wording of the title, the description, and so on, rather than just the solution (that is, how the page would sort all potential examples). This is unusual.
"One solution vs. multiple solutions" (BP828) seems like a border-case. It is about solutions, but it only makes sense for images of Bongard Problems with particular examples. - Aaron David Fairbanks, Aug 01 2020 |
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See BP1010 (projectionmatters versus 3d) for a similar idea: there 2D representations are to 3D objects as here Bongard Problems are to Bongard Problem solutions.
Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP890 BP891 BP892 BP893 BP894 * BP896 BP897 BP898 BP899 BP900
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KEYWORD
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fuzzy, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, right-self, sideless, metameta, right-it, dependence, presentationinvariant
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metabp [smaller | same | bigger]
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Jago Collins
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| BP940 |
| Bongard Problems such that there is a way of making an infinite list of all relevant possible right-sorted examples vs. Bongard Problems where there is no such way of listing all right-sorted examples. |
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| BP1113 |
| Bongard Problems relating to the OEBP vs. Bongard Problems unrelated to the OEBP. |
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