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BP501 Easy Bongard Problems vs. hard Bongard Problems.
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "easy" on the OEBP.

Right-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "hard" on the OEBP.


"Easy" means easy for human beings to solve, not computers.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP496 BP497 BP498 BP499 BP500  *  BP502 BP503 BP504 BP505 BP506

KEYWORD

spectrum, subjective, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, sideless

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP503 "Nice" Bongard Problems vs. Bongard Problems the OEBP does not need more like.
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "nice" on the OEBP.

Right-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "less." They are not necessarily "bad," but we do not want more like them.

CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP498 BP499 BP500 BP501 BP502  *  BP504 BP505 BP506 BP507 BP508

KEYWORD

subjective, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, oebp, right-finite, left-it, feedback, time

WORLD

bp [smaller | same | bigger]

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP826 Hard Bongard Problems a person has been seen to solve without cheating vs. hard Bongard Problems no one is known to have solved yet without cheating.
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BP793
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BP954
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COMMENTS

Left examples have the keyword "solved" on the OEBP.

Right examples have the keyword "challenge" on the OEBP.


CROSSREFS

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP821 BP822 BP823 BP824 BP825  *  BP827 BP828 BP829 BP830 BP831

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword, time

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

BP940 Bongard Problems such that there is a way of making an infinite list of all relevant possible right-sorted examples vs. Bongard Problems where there is no such way of listing all right-sorted examples.
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Problems have the keyword "right-listable" on the OEBP.


BPs are sorted based on how BP563 (left-listable) would sort them were they flipped; see that page for a description.

CROSSREFS

See right-finite, which distinguishes between finite right side and infinite right side.

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP935 BP936 BP937 BP938 BP939  *  BP941 BP942 BP943 BP944 BP945

KEYWORD

meta (see left/right), links, keyword

WORLD

bp_infinite_right_examples [smaller | same | bigger]
zoom in right (right_uncountable_bp)

AUTHOR

Leo Crabbe

BP1124 Bongard Problems such that examples are always by default sorted left, until some unforeseen way of fitting right is noticed (a person is never "sure" something should fit left, but can be "sure" something fits right) vs. vice versa.
BP347
BP829
BP1127
BP801
BP1155
BP1163
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COMMENTS

Left-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "left-unknowable" on the OEBP.

Right-sorted Bongard Problems have the keyword "right-unknowable".


Think of searching for needles in endless haystacks. You can be sure a haystack has a needle by finding it, but you can never be sure a haystack does not have a needle.


When a Bongard Problem is "left-unknowable", individual examples cannot be determined for certain to fit left, by any means. The author of the Bongard Problem just chooses some examples that seem to fit left. (See also the noproofs keyword.)


It is very extreme for this to apply to all examples without exception. Often a Bongard Problem is close to being purely left-unknowable, but a few examples spoil it by being obviously disqualified from the right side for some reason.


It is natural for a person to guess the solution to an unknowable Bongard Problem before actually understanding all the knowable examples, taking some of them on faith.

As a prank, take a left- or right- unknowable Bongard Problem and put an example that actually belongs on the unknowable side on the knowable side. The solver will have to take it on faith there is some reason it fits there they are not seeing.

(The property of having this kind of sorting mistake is unknowable for left- or right- unknowable Bongard Problems.)



One interpretation of topology (a subject of mathematics -- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topology ) is that a topology describes the observability of various properties. (The topological "neighborhoods" of a point are the subsets one could determine the point to be within using a finite number of measurements.) The analogue of a property that is nowhere directly observable is a "subset with empty interior". Furthermore, the fact that the negation of the property is observable corresponds to the subset being "closed".

CROSSREFS

Left- or right- unknowable Bongard Problems are generally notso Bongard Problems: an example fits on one side just in case it cannot be observed to fit on the other.


Although the descriptions of left-couldbe and right-couldbe sound similar to "left-unknowable" and "right-unknowable", they are not the same. It is the difference between a clear absence of information and perpetual uncertainty about whether there is more information to be found. For any example sorted on a "could be" side, there is a clear (knowable) absence of information whose presence would justify the example being on the other side.

Sometimes an unknowable BP can be turned into a couldbe BP by explicitly restricting the amount of available information. For example, if there were a hypothetical Bongard Problem with infinitely detailed pictures, using a low resolution for all pictures could simplify the issue of detecting some properties that would be "unknowable". Many fractal-based BPs are this way (e.g. BP1122). See keyword infinitedetail.


Right-unknowable Bongard Problems are generally left-narrow (and left-unknowable Bongard Problems are generally right-narrow).


A Bongard Problem with examples on both sides cannot be tagged both proofsrequired and left- or right- unknowable.


Many Bongard Problems are about finding rules (keyword rules)--in each panel a rule is to be found, and there are no specified limits about what kind of rule it can be or how abstract it can be. (Just like a Bongard Problem.) "There is a rule vs. there isn't" (resp. vice versa) are right- (resp. left-) unknowable. (That is, disregarding cases that obviously do not define a rule because of some trivial disqualifying reason.)


Actually, I think there is something more to be said about this. It is possible to design examples that signal there is no rule to be found. See for example EX9138 in BP1127 and EX6829 in BP829. (Related: keyword help.) Each of these examples communicates a clear rule that "doesn't count". And there is so little information shown that a person can feel confident they've noticed all the relevant details. So, contrary to how they are currently tagged, these Bongard Problems aren't strictly "unknowable"; there are some exceptional knowable cases. But being too strict about the definition of "unknowable" makes it so there aren't any examples of unknowable Bongard Problems, so it's probably better to be a bit loose. - Aaron David Fairbanks, Apr 20 2022

Adjacent-numbered pages:
BP1119 BP1120 BP1121 BP1122 BP1123  *  BP1125 BP1126 BP1127 BP1128 BP1129

EXAMPLE

The perfect example is BP1163.


Interesting example of a Bongard Problem that is neither left-unknowable nor right unknowable in particular, but for which it is impossible to know whether any example fits on either side: BP1229 (translational symmetry vs. not) made with examples that can be expanded to any larger finite region the solver wants to look at. In this case, examples could only be sorted based on what they seem like (see seemslike), trusting they appear in a way that hints psychologically at what they actually are (see help).

KEYWORD

dual, meta (see left/right), links, keyword, side, viceversa

AUTHOR

Aaron David Fairbanks

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